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At the BOE meeting of Monday, January 7, 2013 those in attendance unfortunately got to see a political power grab and school governance in an ugly way.  For about a decade and half the BOE had a unwritten tradition of rotating the the BOE president.  Based on that tradition it was expected that Ms. Moredcai would become the BOE president.  However, Ms. Casalino got a second term.  Nothing was unlawful but it was not right.  Braking the tradition makes things more political at the BOE: and in my view sets a bad example going forward.  It would be hard for Ms. Moredcai not to see this as an insult. She has served since April 2010 and has often voted against the majority. It was a case of the majority which now includes newly elected BOE member Mr. Charles getting "political pay back" because Ms. Mordecai did not go along with the majority. The election prompted may citizen to complain of racism as Ms. Moredcai is the only person of color on the BOE.  I will not say this was racially motivated as I have too much respect for Mrs. Lab, Mrs.Brill, Ms. Casalino and Mr. Charlse to call them racist and I can not go inside their minds and know what they think on the issue of race.  However, these four individuals are capable of doing things for political payback.  I will say it was ugly and political at the BOE.  The BOE has to manage a budget of about $140 million and make sure about 7,000 student get and opportunity to have education, as well as manage over 1,000 employees.  The political nonsense has to stop and the BOE needs to focus on what is important. While taxes are high and student achieve in test score is not at the level it should be the citizen of West Orange can't tolerate political game at the BOE. The BOE members need to get along with each other even if they don't agree on every thing all the time. Also the four other members need to realize that even if they don't agree with her position she won an election in a fair and square way and thus Ms. Moredcai should get her say and should get her turn to lead even if votes are four to one with her being the one. I have seen first grade students "play nice in sand box" it is a shame our elected board members can not do the same.

Gary Englert

8:34 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013

At variance with any of the assertions/assumptions/misinformation posted here by Mr. Kraemer, the protocol of rotating the Board Presidency and Vice Presidency ended in 1997, with elimination of election to what were 5 year terms. The tradition and protocol that has existed since (be it for Board or Council Presidency) is that those interested solicit support of their colleagues prior to the relevant reorganization meeting. By all reports, Mrs. Casalino and Mrs. Brill did precisely that weeks ago; Ms. Mordecai didn't make her first phone call to anyone until the day of the meeting...well after a consensus had been reached and a decision made. It's really no more complicated than that.

Locally, I can recall a number of elected officials who never served as President of their respective bodies: Cindy Nacco (Council), Harold Dorfman and Jim Quinn (Board of Ed). Surely, in Mr. Quinn's case, this wasn't a matter of any lack of gravitas let alone respect of his colleagues.

Any appearances to the contrary, there is neither any rotation in place nor entitlement to these positions. It is a given, however, that there is a political consequence for one's decisions and actions. The fact that Ms. Mordecai supported neither Mrs. Casalino, nor Mr. Charles, in November's election...and that Mrs. Lab and Mrs. Brill supported both...is hardly any big secret. It also shouldn't come as any great surprise that people don't elevate their political adversaries to leadership positions.

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Adam Kraemer

5:29 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Mr. Englert was not even at attendance at the meeting. So how he can make these conclusion without seeing the events in quesiton? I stand by what I said in this post it was an ugly power grab as part of divided board and this does not bode well for good school governance. I find it odd the officer elections for year have been a 5-0 votes with not debate untill 2013 and it was Ms. Mordaci's turn. I find in odd that no one served two terms in a row a BOE president for at least a decade and now Ms. Casalin is leading for two terms. Let call things as they are politcal pay back and a power grab. The 4-1 votes were she was the one oposed vote resulted in pay back. So the message is if a BOE member votes as he or she thinks is right it will cause political pay back.

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Gary Englert

5:07 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Mr. Kraemer:

One need not be in attendance at a particular meeting to fully understand the dyamics at play and nothing espressed in my rebuttal to your blog post.

As usual, you started with a faulty premise and wound up with an equally faulty conclusion: there is no "tradition" or "rotation" in place, let alone any entitlement to a position.

The math that might have supported such a protocol (prior to 1997 when five year terms were the norm) simply no longer exists.

How would you suggest this "rotation" should play out for two Board members elected simultaneously for the first time?

If logic and common sense dictates that they lack the requisite experience to serve as an officer their freshman year, and that service as vice-president is prerequisite for serving as president, one of the two will never hold either office.

All that said, leadership isn't a mantle that one should acquire automatcially and is best earned.

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Gary Englert

6:38 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Above should read:

"One need not be in attendance at a particular meeting to fully understand the dyamics at play and nothing espressed in my rebuttal to your blog post necessitated witnesssing anything with my own eyes."

Portmanteau

5:29 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013

I disagree. My guess is that she doesn't have the depth or the experience to lead.

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Adam Kraemer

7:39 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Ms. Mordaci - Is qualified to lead she would be hard pressed to do worse than the past presidents of the BOE who miss-managed the relationship with Dr. Cavana and have presided over large tax bills and less than stellar test scores.

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Ryan

4:10 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

The previous president of the Board decided long before Ms. Mordecai did that Superintendent Cavanna should be replaced. Ms. Mordecai was one of his most die-hard supporters, in point of fact.

wohopeful

8:53 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013

No one is more qualified to serve as the leader of our BOE than Ms. Mordecai. She has stood her ground in the face of continuing attacks from the status quo and their underlings. She deserves our support and we should challenge the nonsense that at least two bullies think they can control everything and treat good citizens with such disrespect.

Those who were not in attendance at the meeting can spout their ficticious hearsay nonsense all they want but it doesn't change what occured and the disrespect shown to the community.

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john anthony prignano

5:07 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

wohopeful Terrific comments .Many years ago, the State presented the West Orange Board of Education with a BOOK of cost saving suggestions .Most were related to excessive employee compensation - salaries, benefits. longevity pay. the number of salary steps, personal days , sick days, vacation days etc. etc. I don't think that Board and succeeding Boards, have implemented one of those suggestions. . The State should not send West Orange a dime of school funding .The State determined unequivocally that West Orange was and still is grossly overspending on it's employees . Why does the State on the one hand say that West Orange can save millions by implementing the reasonable reforms the State has suggested, and then on the other hand continue to send the same profligate, underachieving District millions in financial aid ? Does that make any sense - "You have been grossly overspending for decades !! And if you refuse to reduce costs,guess what?, ..... Every year we will send you several million dollars in financial assistance." Have we moved from the "Abbott Rim" to the Abbott?

Steven Serebrenik

8:53 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Ms. Mordaci HAS both the depth and leadership qualities to lead!

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john anthony prignano

6:38 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Many years ago,the School Board as it was then constituted did the exact same thing to Harold Dorfman as this Board has done to Ms. Mordecai .I met Mr. Dorfman at a a School Board meeting . We had a brief conversation . After that night, I met and spoke with him a few more times .I came to believe that he was an honest and fair person who truly wanted to make things better. That's what I believed about Mr. Dorfman, When the School Board screwed him, they confirmed to me that I had put my trust in the right guy. .

barry_geltzeiler

12:38 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Lets consider the source of this article...

How many elections have you lost to all of those you chose to throw stones at? I may not know enough information to judge whether Mrs Mordecai is or is not qualified but I am sharp enough to see these allegations are nothing but sour grapes on Mr. Kraemers part.

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Steven Serebrenik

5:07 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

BG,

Isn't it important to know whether or not Mrs. Mordecai is fit for the position? I guess not.

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john anthony prignano

5:07 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Barry ! I'm sure when the town resurfaces Old Indian Road,they are also going to install those absurd and costly speed walls like the ones that are on Saint Cloud Avenue. You've been guaranteed your park for neighborhood residents only. You've got your gated community courtesy of the West Orange taxpayers and the power of boycott and the abuse of Historical Preservation, so what are you angling for now? Years ago , a young man on the Historic Preservation Committee said he believed the ENTIRE St. Cloud neighborhood qualifies for Historic Preservation. Is that it? What comes after that, a crocodile infested moat?. .

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barry_geltzeiler

5:44 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

SS,
You missed my point, Kraemer will take up any issue with the board because each one of them has defeated him. I do not have enough knowledge of the inner workings of the BOE to make any assertion about Mrs Mordecai's accomplishments or lack there of. Just because Kraemer says it does mean its true. He has a well known personal issue with this board

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barry_geltzeiler

5:44 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Once again John you hijack a thread and type jibberish. What do your comments remotely have to do with anything in the above article???

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Adam Kraemer

7:39 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Barry - I have lost an election to every current member of the BOE except Ms. Brill who defeated me twice. The closest I cam to winning was in 2010 when Ms. Mordecai defeated me by a razor thin margin with her coming in second and me being third. I don't always agree with Ms. Mordecai. She is a strong Democrat I am strong Republican. However, she shows signs of intelligence and integrity in her actions as a BOE member so it is very disconcerting when she is past over in a power grab. The BOE has to change: school spending is way too high and the result are not acceptable in all areas. Yes some good thing do occur in our schools but we need change and we need fairness and common sense in school governance. The Monday night foolishness at the BOE was really bad. A person who really tires to do right by the kids and the town was trashed for political reasons and that was a bad thing.

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barry_geltzeiler

4:10 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Adam you say we need change.Super O'Neill is instituting change and here is an instance where now the BOE is instituting change. But when change doesnt go your way then it is deemed unfair. You constantly yell for change, becareful for what you wish for!!!!

john anthony prignano

12:38 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

Steve Serebrenik . You are correct! And this School Board ABSOLUTELY needed a change in leadership if things were to change for the better,THAT'S why there was none.

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john anthony prignano

5:07 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013

This was payback . I have written several times about my phone call to Laura Lab I told her I wanted to talk to her about special education in general and about my autistic son specifically . I said " Can I stop over "?" No. "Could you come here?" She replied " We can talk now on the phone. " She suddenly blurted . " I have to go, but I'll call you right back." Of course she never did . A woman wrote a letter with a similar story to mine Then Englert writes " I'm sure your son got all the services he was entitled to." He had no way of knowing if his statement was true or not, but now he does - my son DID NOT get all the services he was entitled to. And he wouldn't have gotten at least some of what he did get if not for 2 wonderful advocates who helped us immeasurably. Payback .

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john anthony prignano

8:05 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Chris Christie is being seriously touted as presidential timber, especially by himself. By virtually every MEASURABLE standard, he is an abysmal failure as Governor. Is Cory Booker our next U.S. Senator? Again,on SUBSTANCE, he's been a horrible Mayor. What I want to ask is this; Is Ms. Mordecai demanding a longer school day and year? Does she want WOHS to at least increase the amount of daily instructional time to the State average? Are scheduled early dismissals o.k. with her? Are the ever declining hours dedicated to core - curriculum something she takes issue with? Has she given a written or at least a verbal pledge not to engage in acts of cronyism and/or nepotism? Years ago, City Hall eliminated longevity pay for new employees. Does she agree or disagree with that change? What does she think about one health plan for both City Hall and the School System? Does she believe West Orange teachers and Administrators are overcompensated,or does she feel that educators in towns of equal or greater wealth than West Orange are underpaid? Has she expressed a problem with teachers moonlighting at one or more jobs in the private sector? In other words, is she truly at odds with the other Board members on matters of real substance,or is this just more internecine warfare West Orange style? I'll take her over the rest of the Board members any day, but to me,the term "Strong Democrat" DOES NOT sound like someone who wants to reduce the size and cost of government. To the contrary.

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john anthony prignano

6:16 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Adam Did you know that people who call for "change", like you and I, actually mean ANY change. I didn't. I thought you and I have repeatedly and clearly articulated many of the types of changes we want But if per pupil spending goes way up,,and test scores go way down, school day is shortened, religious instruction is added to the curriculum, and the schools host political rallies and candidate forums and debates, or the School Board engages in behavior that you regard as unfair and counterproductive etc. If these types of things were to occur, you would be in no position to complain. You called for change, and those are changes. You and I want "reduced spending". I want "more instructional time" If the Board reduces spending by a penny and adds one second a year to one math class , then the changes we called for have occurred and we should be happy about it, and we should fall silent. I for one am going to be very careful from here on in about what I wish for and how I can best define that wish with exactitude.. barry - specifically, barry Geitzeiler, thanks for the wake - up call.

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Portmanteau

8:05 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Unfortunately if you get a voucher, then many schools will only take a couple of voucher students. The good places will not be overun with 'voucher kids'. It may be a red herring.

margot

8:05 am on Friday, January 11, 2013

Wow! How sad these comments sound. It appears from my reading that the ruling elite are more important than our children who they were voted into office and for whom they are responsible for educating. Squabbling among the board members is not in this Township's best interest.

That being said, I have personally found Sandra Mordecai to respond immediately no matter what my question with honest thought and intellegence. I am one citizen who is glad she chose to serve. Ms. Mordecai is an individual who stands by her convictions and makes it easy for me to give her my support.

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Adam Kraemer

8:28 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013

Margot - Unfortunately you are right. The student and tax payers loose in this fight.

Gary Englert

1:36 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

In the final analysis, this is all much ado about nothing as Board officer wields no extraordinary additional power beyond what they they already hold as a member.

The President simply chairs the meetings and present the Board's official positions (gained by consensus) when necessary. The Vice President fills those rolls in the President's absence.

It is a given, however, that the most experienced legislator are those best suited to fill thos positions and that is precisely what we have...and neither the public nor our school children have lost a thing.

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Portmanteau

8:24 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

You as usual make sense. What I think that we forget about is that we are all in this together. The town makes a real mistake by castigating people and often treating them with contempt or ignoring them after years of service. When people feel neglected or their needs are not being met, they tend to leave. For what it's worth. I have some very deep and very satisfying ties to this town. But this town makes me nervous. It's changing and not for the better. It's not really living up it's progressive promise, because some of those who are in charge need to move on. We need fresh blood and real ideas that promote the kind of system that people feel they want their kids in.

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wohopeful

8:59 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Then why the power grab by Ms. Casalino and Ms. Brill? Obviously it is much more to them than jsut a title if they have been campaigning for weeks for the position as you previously stated.

This is much more than simply titles with no power. This is about a power grab by a select few to further their own personal agendas and not for the greater good of the community or the children.

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Gary Englert

12:47 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

wohopeful:

The suggestion there has been some "power grab" here is nothing more than ill-informed, inflammatory nonsense...period.

There are five members of the Board whose votes are neither diminished nro embelished by which of them are serving as President or Vice.

Hell, the President doesn't even set the meeting agendas, the Superintendent and his administration does.

Lastly, nobody was "campaigning for weeks" for these positions, rather they simply made a couple of telephone calls weeks ago to reach consensus.

Ms. Mordecai didn't make her first call until last Monday and came up short as a result.

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wohopeful

10:45 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Then we must ask agin why the power grab by ms. Casalino and Ms. Brill? Clearly it means something if they conspired as Mr. Englert describes to ensure they had the necessary votes lined p before the meeting. An awful lot of sneakiness going on if it is a meaningless title as Mr. Englert wants everyone to believe.

john anthony prignano

12:47 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

wohopeful You are correct .I spoke to Ron Charles while he was campaigning . I told him about Laura Lab turning her back on my son .He said that when he's elected to the Board, he won't engage in that type of vindictive, political payback behavior. To paraphrase Alan Swann in the movie My Favorite Year; "You can depend on these people, they'll always let you down." Declining scores, soaring costs, rampant nepotism and cronyism, 260 out of 389 schools based on the HSPAS, ad infinitum . Michelle Casalino was the top vote getter in the last election. Get the picture? Well said wohopeful.. .

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john anthony prignano

8:21 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

wohopeful Well said These people and their minions are eviscerating the town. Michele Casalino has been an absolutely horrible school board member .....if your desire is quality education at a reasonable price. On the other hand, if your interested in a job or service and supply contracts for you and yours that pay enough for you to afford to move to a town that provides decent services and doesn't spend money on it's employees like West Orange spends on you, then Ms. Casalino has been and will continue to be a superb member/ president of the school board. As I said, look at the extremely excessive and wasteful spending, look at the abysmal test scores and the rampant cronyism and the nepotism, but then take note that Ms.Casalino was the top vote getter in the last school board election.wohopeful I have noticed more than a few people have expressed their support for Ms. Casalino on Patch. Are these people merely some of the rather large in - crowd or in - crowd wannabes, or do they truly regard Ms. Casalino's performance in areas like cost - per - pupil,test scores and hiring and promotion practices as exemplary? If they do, maybe they could enlighten us at to why they do.. . , .

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wohopeful

11:23 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

Mr. Prignano, I believe as most of the hard working honest taxpayer of WO, that the educational system in WO is broken and has been broken for quite some time. The WOBOE continues to be plagued with those who want to promote their own agendas and promote nepotism and cronyism. WO taxpayers pay one of the largest per pupil tax bills in the country and our students rank in the bottom third of schools in NJ. This is unacceptable. We must demand affordable quality education.

The days of looking the other way while board member's children are given BOE jobs, while board members cost the taxpayers unnessecary legal bills because of their careless disregard for the law, etc. are over. We must demand change, hold those currently in office accountable for their actions, and vote for change as soon as possible.

Why do the taxpayers of West Orange no logner get the right to vote on the WOBOE budget? Because these board members do not want to be held to be transparent to those they serve.

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john anthony prignano

8:20 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

wohopeful You alluded to the fact that we can no longer vote on the school budget. . Because of the Shared Services agreement between the board of education and the township that they entered into several years ago,we have also been denied our right of Initiative and Referendum on multi - million dollar school construction projects. The public has voted No on too, too many budgets and referendums to suit a great many board members.They were magnanimous enough to give us opportunities to vote Yes, but those of us who could not or would not see the absolute necessity of their spending initiatives kept voting No. So in the classic tradition of the "You people are too stupid to know what's best for you ,so we will tell you what's best for you " school of thought, they have taken away 2 of our voting opportunities..

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wohopeful

8:55 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

Exactly my point Mr. Prignano. These BOE member have very skillfully stripped the public of their rights to the checks and balances needed to protect the average hard working taxpayers. We are no longer able to vote on the budget, we are no longer able to vote on massive buidling projects, etc. The power grab here by Ms. Casalino and Ms. Brill was just another show of bully force to strip the majority of honest hard working taxpayers in West Orange of their rights by a select few who want to control millions of our dollars.

The results are clear for everyone to see, failing schools and massive budgets. And in the end the public has no power to do anything about it.

Shoshanna

3:20 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Mr Englert, you are mistaken when stating the boards selection of Ms Casolino was not a "power grab". The fair choice for the children and taxpayers of the district would have been to "mutually advise " Ms Mordecai for her fair and deserved opportunity to lead the Board of Ed.
There has been no consistent top down leadership from the superintendent (s) --who have gladly pocketed enormous amounts of money with negative consequences -- more on that when information becomes available. Mr. O'Neil should have been hired at half the salary with an incentive for additional monies based on measurable goals actually accomplished. The BOE is responsible for budgeting a large sum of taxpayer money and should be financially educated in running the district like an efficient corporation.

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Ryan

5:41 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

I have never understood how 'low starting salary + incentives' is supposed to work when there's a salary cap in place. Seems to me it would only work if all the other boards are doing the same thing. Otherwise, we just won't have any candidates applying.

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Ryan

5:41 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

I don't understand how you can praise Ms. Mordecai's leadership in one sentence and denounce the prior superintendent in the next. She was one of his biggest supporters, well after a majority of the board decided he should be replaced. (And yes, the same is true of Ms. Casalino, who I am not endorsing.)

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john anthony prignano

5:41 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Shoshanna Great letter.No one in their right mind could think that this Board is sincere about providing a good education to the children of this Township. In the face of dozens of non- core curriculum mandates, what have they done? They've added their own non - core curriculum mandates, and gouged more and more hours from the school day !14 days less yearly instructional time at WOHS than the State average, and a dozen scheduled early dismissals in the grammar schools. Nepotism and cronyism by their very nature undermine performance and accountability. Years ago I walked into a pizzeria as a 100K + department head was walking out. On the counter was a glass jar. The label said ; Donations for WOHS marching band uniforms .Some time ago, a gym teacher at the Washington School asked the District to purchase hand weights for her classes. Sorry, no money. So she said she took plastic soda bottles, cut them, filled the bottoms with sand, and then sealed them with heated plastic.Shoshanna, you mentioned that 10% of the students are getting a great education. I once asked Superintendent Tarnoff ,how many of that 10% are tutored after school ,and attend enrichment courses, curriculum camps and the like, which are paid for by their parents? He answered. Alot! The instructional time or lack thereof this District provides guarantees a high rate of failure. Educators worth their salt by and large agree; Quote "The most important classroom resource is time." John Pragmatic .

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Gary Englert

7:52 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Shoshanna:

Start with a faulty premise and the result will always be a faulty conclusion.

In this particular case, the fallacy is that any special "power" accrues to the President or Vice President of the Board of Education, as none does.

The Board President Chairs the meetings and serves as the Board's public spokesperson (during their term) conveying the Board's policies and opinions as reached through consensus.

The Vice President fulfills those rolls in the President's absence...period.

The position does not constitute a separate (executive) branch of government as does the Presidency of the United States and doesn't even convey the aability to set a legislative agenda as is the responsibility of the Speaker of the House.

Of consequence, there is will be no material effect (pro or con) on either the school children, or taxpayers, based on who happens to be holding the gavel for the next twelve months.

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john anthony prignano

7:52 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

Chris Christie has capped School Superintendent's salaries at $175.000. I don't think that's his business. However, there are Police Chiefs and Fire Chiefs and subordinates who make more, in some cases much more ,than his $175,000 School Superintendent cap .There are Police Chiefs in charge of 30 and 40 officer Departments who make well over $200,000 in base salary. Why hasn't the Governor publicly expressed a problem with that? Now it takes 4 years for a teacher to get tenure instead of 3 years..But a family member will still be a family member for the additional year, and a crony who was a crony for 3 years, will more than likely still be a crony after another year has passed. Tenure should be eliminated. Generally speaking, working for a government monopoly that guarantees lifetime employment is not the sort of an arrangement that encourages people to be at the top of their game.

john anthony prignano

3:20 pm on Saturday, January 12, 2013

wohopeful These people have built a powerful cachet. When the Board proposed a $55,000,000 school construction referendum Board member Dr. Andrew Brafman wrote in the Chronicle that this proposal was all "meat and potatoes. " He said that the $55,000,000 request contained no frills, no padding, and no unnecessary spending . The voters turned it down .The Board then submitted a $23,000,000 proposal ?? According to Dr. Brafman, that figure was $32,000,000 less than the original "bare bones " plan the Board had proposed .It failed. The Board submitted a $21,000,000 proposal ?? That figure was $34,000,000 LESS than the original "all meat and potatoes " proposal . It too failed .The Board then spent more than the original $55,000,000 request. When the voters rejected a school budget, the Town Council didn't cut a penny from that budget .Outrageous and intolerable behavior ? To the contrary. Michele Casalino wasn't the top vote getter in the last election IN SPITE of things like declining test scores, exorbitant salaries and benefits, far too few instructional hours, rampant nepotism and cronyism, and a thorough lack of objectivity in her decision making process. She was the top vote getter BECAUSE of those things.

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Gary Englert

8:21 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

Wohopeful:

There is no "sneakiness" in a member of a legislative body lining up support for his/her appointment to a leadership position in advance of a public vote and this is how it has been done in our democracy since its begining.

Was Sheila Olver's appointment as Assembly Speaker and Steve Sweeney's as Senate President a done deal before the roll was called?

Of course they were.

Anyone making a big deal out of the Board's action and vote concerning its officers clearly has no clue how such things are routinely accomplished throughout the land.

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wohopeful

11:23 am on Sunday, January 13, 2013

Ms. Oliver's and Mr. Sweeney's appointments are only an issue for you because they meant that Mr. McKeon and Codey were pushed aside by their own party.

It was Mr. Englert who suggested Ms. Casalino and Ms Brill was campaigning and making calls to garener support for their power grab on the WOBOE. Now he wants us to beleive that there is nothing going on. If these positions truly hold no significance then perhaps he will join us at the next WOBOE meeting in a show of solidarity to demand that Ms. Casalino and Ms. Brill step down from their positions.

Gary Englert

2:10 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

Wohopeful:

Your incessant attempts to misconstrue any reasonable point made by anyone are legendary.

Pointing out the way legislative leadership positions are determined (in my example, Oliver and Sweeney) was simply to say that the protocols are what they are, anyone's personal loyalties and opinions notwithstanding.

Mrs. Casalino and Mrs. Brill properly garnered the requisite support and have assumed the positions as President and Vice...and there is no reason for anyone to object in favor of someone who did not.

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wohopeful

3:38 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

Mr. Englert, it is very telling when your own words are repeated abck to you that you think someone is trying to misconstrue something. If anyone is misconstruing anything uit would be yourself. You make comments about meetings that you didn't attend, try to promote excuses when factual evidence proves you wrong, and the list goes on.

Clearly there was a power grab here by Ms. Casalino and Ms. Brill. Those of us in attendance witnessed it first hand. The WOBOE talks about the Anti-Bully policy they promote in the distrcit but bullying is alive and well at the WOBOE, just attend any meeting and sit thorugh the public comment where Ms. Casalino and Ms Brill shut down the representatives from thepublic. Now they have pulled a power grab on the WOBOE and it will be up to the citizens to right the injustice.

I suggest you show up and join us in solidarity as we call for Ms. Casalino and Ms Brill to step down and allow the injustice to be corrected for the good of our community.

john anthony prignano

2:50 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

What sort of a person would BOAST that they are the close friend and confidante of an individual who freely admits to clandestinely ripping out political lawn signs and then putting back only the lawn signs of the candidates he supports? This individual ,who was evicted from his place of business in Newark for non - payment of rent, once sent out a PERSONAL endorsement letter with the State Seal of New Jersey placed at the top of the letter. That letter was filled with lies and misinformation.This individual, who professes to be an ardent supporter of the public schools, used a public school teacher's salary to pay for his children's private school tuition. And this individual, when he speaks about his being passed over and exiled to the back of the room, and his son's lackluster showing in an election, takes the expressions "sour grapes" and " flimsy excuses" to a whole other level. What sort of a person would BOAST about being the close friend and confidante of such an individual?

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john anthony prignano

6:47 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

wohopeful . Of course you're correct .I think any objective person would have to believe that an absurd amount of effort was put into garnering a position that invests the holder of said position with little or no real power, and is at its essence almost purely ceremonial. I can only conclude there is far more to it than that. Do any of the other four Board members know the definition of the word " comity " ? the late,great poet Ogden Nash wrote "In the world of mules, there are no rules".

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Bert Peronilla

6:47 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

I watched this WOBOE meeting on TV and got the feeling that the Rosa Parks incident was unveiling right before my eyes. In my humble opinion, considering that the post of VP in this case is more glory and pride than substance, Megan lost the opportunity to be admired rather than maligned, by not stepping down and offering the post to Sandra. As things stand right now, future meetings of the Board will be hostile and unproductive.

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john anthony prignano

6:47 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

wohopeful , If we believe, and I say IF we believe the 4 School Board members defenders, then we have yet another West Orange first: What occurred was a carefully orchestrated POWERLESS grab.

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Gary Englert

8:47 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

If anyone can detail for me any extraordinary powers that accrue to those holding the titles of President/Vice President of the Board of Education, I'd certainly be willing to hear about them but, I believe they are nothing more than what I've previously detailed.

As to any Macchiavellian intrigue or plotting going into any of this, please keep in mind that anyone seeking the positions needed to do little more than make two telephone calls, as three votes decides the matter in anyone's favor.

For whatever reason, Ms. Mordecai obviously failed to make those calls before her colleagues.

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Bert Peronilla

11:28 am on Monday, January 14, 2013

Ms. Mordecai stated in the meeting that the reason she did not actively lobby for the VP spot was because based on past practices, she assumed that it was her turn to at least be VP, and the election would just have been a formality. My take on this is that race was not a factor, but rather alliances among the board members. There is a strong alliance among Mses Brill, Casalino and Laub. Ron is an unknown at this point, but I will not be surprised if there is a 4 to 1 alliance on this board. This would mirror the 4 to 1 alliance on many issues in our Town Council, with Joe Krakoviak being the dissenting vote. These conclusions are based solely on my personal observations at the meetings.

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Bert Peronilla

11:28 am on Monday, January 14, 2013

My apologies for misspelling...it should be Ms Lab, NOT Laub.

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Gary Englert

12:52 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

Concerned:

You are substantially correct and Ms. Mordecai's assumption was just that and simply misplaced.

The members of legislative bodies throughout the land reach consensus as to who will hold what leadership positions prior to a public vote being taken and in virtually every case, yes, one's politics, positions and opinions come into play.

Does the majority party in the House of Representatives install someone from across the aisle as Speaker of the House...does the State Assembly or Senate?

No...they appoint those allied with their own political thought and philosophies.

That is precisely what happened with the Board of Education and, based on all reports and observations, the fact that Ms. Mordecai is often out of sync and at odds with her colleagues is surely old news.

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wohopeful

1:21 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

It still does not explain the power grag by Ms. Casalino and Ms. Brill. Based on the positions being nothing other than a title there was no need to dispense with tradition, but both Ms Casalino and Ms Brill made the power play and now only time will tell what they have up their sleeves.

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Bert Peronilla

1:53 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

Hmmmm. Will Joe Kraloviak ever have a chance to be the President of the Town Council?

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Gary Englert

1:53 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

wohopeful:

Let me lay it out as simply as I can for you:

Ms. Mordecai has often been at odds with her colleagues on various and sundry matters.

As a result, it's more than reasonable to conclude that none of them very likely thought she was the best person to be speaking on behalf of a majority she is often opposed to.

Had Ms. Mordecai expressed interest in a position before the meeting (and she did not, publicly and incorrectly acknowledging only that she thought it was "her turn"), her colleagues might have then illuminated the terrain in which she found herself deployed...assuming she couldn't figure it out for yourself.

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wohopeful

3:34 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

It still does not explain the power grab by Ms. Casalino and Ms. Brill with regards to the positions they took. If these are solely positions of title then there should have been no need for either Ms Casalino or Ms. Brill to make the power play that they did and avoid tradiition.

I urge you to come out to the WOBOE meeting and stand with us in solidarity as we request that Ms. Casalino and Ms. Brill step down and apologize for the power grab.

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Bert Peronilla

4:07 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

Lesson Learned: To avoid this misunderstanding from happening in the future, the BOE By-Laws should provide that "the President and Vice President will be elected by the Board after every election." Relying on past practices or traditions, in this case, will not always work.

john anthony prignano

9:58 pm on Sunday, January 13, 2013

Remember what Paul Petigrow said? "As long as we're under the cap, there's no reason for the public to vote on the budget " They can cut several million dollars in spending from the budget.They can, but they won't. Petigrow feels that there's no reason to vote on as much as $2.8 million in new spending,even though we're already spending over $21k a student. Further, It's a 2% SPENDING cap,not a 2% tax increase. Livingston is drowning in successful tax appeals Their budget came in under the 2% spending cap, but the tax increase was considerably higher.West Orange must come in at or around the 2% spending cap. But with the apparent decline in our tax base,the tax levy will have to be higher than 2%. .My behavior was no different when my kids were in school then it is now. I'm supposed to be subservient to my employees? You know the "prevailing wisdom " - If you give the teachers a hard time,they'll pick on your kids" Whether you give them a hard time or not,they "pick on the kids" every day - Taking their parents jobs,demanding and getting more and more money from those same parents for increasingly inferior results, pushing for LESS instructional time in response to more and more curriculum mandates, etc. What's the " mission statement " of the public schools? "Preparing students to compete successfully in the high - tech ,hyper- competitive global economy of the twenty - first century. Charters?,Vouchers? ,C- c-c- ompetition? The flimsy veneer is long gone. ,. . ..

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john anthony prignano

6:21 am on Monday, January 14, 2013

wohopeful I want to tell you that your letter addressed to me was a wonderful letter. Remember the words of Hotspur from Shakespeares Heny IV - " We shall, out of this nettle danger, pluck this flower, safety "

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john anthony prignano

6:21 am on Monday, January 14, 2013

wohopeful That is a terrific point you made about the bullying that goes on by people who are charged with teaching students an anti - bullying philosophy. Years ago, the P.T.A. would send out a letter endorsing passage of the school budget .The letter contained warnings; If the budget's defeated, important programs may be cut, and class sizes may get larger. Hazardous route courtesy busing may be eliminated,forcing children to walk dangerous highways to get to school - .Threatening children's lives to coerce parents to vote yes on the school budget. Millburn has delivered on that scenario. The Millburn teachers got a raise, so how did the school board stay below the budget cap?. Millburn has eliminated hazardous route courtesy busing. If parents want their children bused, they must pay $580 a child, with a cap of $1,160 regardless of how many children come from one family. One parent said ,"What can I do? I have to go to work. I can't let my 6 year old walk a mile to school. I have to pay." Other parents said basically the same thing. Now if that's not a shakedown racket, what is. We can only hope that the buses get the children to school on time for their first period anti - bullying class.. .

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Gary Englert

8:20 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

Sorry...above should, of course, read "3 to 1 majority"...

john anthony prignano

3:34 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

wohopeful, Concerned .You are right again. Gary Englert clearly states the problems the school board has with Ms. Mordecai is that she is "out of sync " with the board, and often votes against the majority. You see? If she had rubber stamped everything the board does and voted against her conscience and her beliefs, betrayed the public and her oath of office and been derelict in her duties, today she would be board president and in good standing with her colleagues.. She had already angered the cult by simple act of running for the board. But she enraged them by actually winning.This speak volumes about these people.. Dissension is the essence of a free society. Take that away, and you have a dictatorship, which is UNDOUBTEDLY why the 4 board members have engaged in retribution. These people, who are charged with teaching children character and tolerance and an anti- bullying philosophy, will NOT tolerate dissent..Could you imagine. Ms. Mordecai "paid the price " for her integrity and courage of convictions. .Concerned, I don't believe this contemptible behavior was rooted in racism. Ms. Mordecai refuses to be a robotic,obsequious fool and so she had to be punished. Concerned, of course Ron Charles is in lock step with the other 3. board members. What does it take for the public to recognize the true nature of these people and to see that these people are not there to provide children with a good education and to give the taxpayers something, anything for their money.

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john anthony prignano

6:15 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

Wait a minute .The vast majority of letters on this thread have expressed strong support for Ms. Mordecai .Why does Englert refuse to get "in sync" with the majority. Why does he dissent? Let me guess. By expressing his beliefs and obeying his conscience, it appears to me he is exercising his inalienable right to free speech and freedom of choice without fear of retribution. By the way, the rule of law states" The majority rules" not "The majority is right" Henrik Ibsen articulates this point beautifully in "An Enemy of the People ". John Pragmatic.

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Gary Englert

8:20 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

john anthony prignano:

There is nothing to suggest that the majority of those posting on this Board is posibly representative of the majority of the citizens of our Townhip and, either way, I wouldn't be inclined to get in sync with many of the opinions being expressed here.

Point in fact, however, 3 of 11 of our local elected officials (or 27%) are registered Republicans, which pretty much mirrors the fact that Democrats hold a 4 to 1 majority on the voter registration rolls.

Rather than bemoaning the fact that someone assuming they were entitled to an appointed position didn't get one, we should be celebrating the fact that tow Democrats and two Republicans reached across the aisle, reached a consensus and made a decision for the greater good.

If that were happening in Congress, I'm sure we'd all be more than happy about it.

john anthony prignano

6:15 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

P.S. The public schools also place a strong emphasis on teaching students techniques that will help the students resist and be strong when they are confronted by peer pressure.

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john anthony prignano

10:46 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

There are certain terms and labels that are in no way apocryphal .One is "an Essex County Republican " Former Councilman Anthony Benevento was a a registered Republican. Where was the substance of his smaller government philosophy? Perhaps he was a Liberal Republican That may explain why he was in sync with the other Council members much of the time - because they were Ultra - Conservative Democrats.These farces are akin to professional wrestling feuds.Over $21k per pupil,and Englert says there are 3 Republicans. Semantics and a corruption of the language..Republican is too generic a term. Ultra - liberal? Liberal? Conservative? Ultra - conservative? Words and terms which are ineffable, and thus are meaningless There's only one party - the Money/Power party.The appearance of resistance is straight out of George Orwell's 1984. It is advantageous to give true conservatives the impression that there are people in positions of power who are of a similar mindset. Look at their VOTING RECORD, not their rhetoric.Look at your tax bill,look at how we pay more and more for less and less service crummy overpriced schools,filthy streets, riddled with potholes ad infinitum., Look at the epidemic of cronyism and nepotism and the acts of overt contempt for the taxpayers our "Republican"office holders engage in.There are still a lot of true Republicans, but these people aint them.If you dare to reach across the aisle,your hand will come back without your wristwatch . .. . . . . . .

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john anthony prignano

8:57 am on Tuesday, January 15, 2013

Shakespeare ; " Words are but the shadows of actions." Many people claim to be conservatives, uncompromising tax watchdogs, indefatigable champions of the common man, etc. Macbeth ; ..... It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" We must never let propaganda trump performance..

Kate Farrell

8:20 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

This person said:
" wohopeful
8:59 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
Then why the power grab by Ms. Casalino and Ms. Brill? Obviously it is much more to them than jsut a title if they have been campaigning for weeks for the position as you previously stated.
This is much more than simply titles with no power. This is about a power grab by a select few to further their own personal agendas and not for the greater good of the community or the children."

I was at the meeting and heard Ms. Casalino say she told Ms. Mordecai what she needed to do to put herself out for VP in December. If she didn't, shouldn't she be responsible for that and not other people? It's not about whether she could be a VP or not. I feel bad for her... she assumed something and it was wrong to assume it. But moving forward... isn't she running for school board again? If she gets re-elected, she can put her bid in for next year.

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wohopeful

8:55 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013

Ms. Farrell you miss the point. Ms. Casalino and Ms. Brill had every intention of executing a power grab and as a result would have told someone else that they need to stand on their heads to get the position. According to your friend Mr. Englert they conspired via phone calls and campaigning to ensure who would nominate who, who would second it and ultimately who would get the positions. There was nothing fair about the process and we shoudl all be ambarrassed and saddended by this show of force by Ms. Casalino anjd Ms. Brill in pulling off their power grab.

john anthony prignano

3:02 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013

wohopeful. When people are singularly effusive with praise for our elected officials and the state of affairs in West Orange, one must question if they have truly "missed the point." Richard the Third," Slave, I have set my life upon a cast, and I will stand the hazard of the die. "

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john anthony prignano

3:14 pm on Tuesday, January 15, 2013

wohopeful, Ms. Mordecai was punished for being "out of sync " with the other board members and for not being a rubber stamp. In West Orange, the opposite is also true. .People too numerous to count have been, and will continue to be , REWARDED for being { publicly } "in sync" and rubber stamping everything our elected officials desire.

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