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POLITICS: It's Finally Here! The Day We Can End the Painful Obama Years Has Arrived

Election Day 2012 is here. I’ve been waiting for this day since Election Day 2008.  I believed then the election of Barack Obama was a well-intentioned mistake. I never imagined how painful the ensuing four years would be:

  • It was painful to hear the President criticize our country while on foreign soil.
  •  It was painful when the President lifted the Mexico City policy and allowed American taxpayer funds to be used to subsidize abortions in other countries.
  • It was painful when the Attorney General wanted to treat a 9/11 mastermind as an ordinary criminal, hoping to try him in criminal court in New York City instead of in a military tribunal as an enemy combatant. 
  • It was painful to see our national security undermined because intelligence gathering via interrogation of captured terrorists is no longer valued.  (Waterboarding is torture, but dropping a bomb on a terrorist isn’t.)
  • It was painful to observe the rudeness with which our ally, Israel, was treated.
  • It was painful to watch our government encourage so-called “democratic movements” in the Middle East when the involvement of radical Islamists was apparent.
  • It was painful to see so many millions of people lose their jobs and then not be able to find new ones for a very long time – if at all.
  • It was painful to watch one in six Americans slip into poverty.
  • It was painful when, against the will of the majority of the people, the government used procedural techniques and earmark-bribes to eke out just enough Democrat-only votes to pass ObamaCare.
  • It was painful to see our President deliberately stress differences among groups. He said he’d be a uniter, but I’ve never seen a President split Americans apart from each other as intentionally as this one.
  • It was painful to watch the massive growth, via irresponsible spending and borrowing, of intrusive government, forcing the private sector to shrink in response.
  • It was painful to watch government regulators thwart the development of America’s natural energy resources.
  • It was painful to note the European-style emphasis on redistribution of wealth, along with the demonization of capitalism.

I could definitely go on, but I’ll stop at a baker’s dozen.

This is why Election Day 2012 is such a momentous day for the American people.  Finally, after four painful years, the day has arrived on which we can exercise our power: the power of our votes.

We can choose to reward the President with another four painful (for us) years.

Or we can join together to reject the direction of the past four years. We can choose to begin to restore a more prosperous, more secure and freer America. 

The United States can still be the flourishing mecca of opportunity and happiness that it was for our parents and grandparents. Many of them came here precisely because America’s freedoms and resources made it, uniquely, a place where individuals could work to achieve their dreams.

Instead of the stagnant, impoverished, dependent, antagonized nation we’re becoming, let’s bring back that "melting pot" where anyone can realize the American dream.

A Romney-Ryan administration will work with us and for us to help make this happen. 

As for this President? In my view, we can only count on more pain.

Lisa

1:33 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

Wow, i cannot beleive all of the lies you just spewed. Guess you have been watching too much FOX TV.

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Glen Pierce

2:00 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

Lisa. Someday, you will wake up politically and economically and realize that Liberalism/Progressive ideas are bad. The Dems voted for social issues that most people can handle themselves instead of the overall country good to apply proper economic theory to improve capitalism. You should invest in a college course about economic theory and hopefully taught by a non liberal professor. I hope the Repubs next time avoid certain social issues which seem to scare the dickens out of the liberals. And then the country can apply proper ideas to running a country.

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Kevin

11:02 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

Glen, you should invest in something that educates you that George W. Bush expanded the Earned Income Tax Credit. He doubled the credit for Children. George W. Bush passed Medicare Part D, expanding Medicare spending.

I have a Business Degree, most of my professors worked on Wall Street or in Public Accounting. I have no idea who was liberal or conservative, because the subject matter was not political. I have studied economics, statistics, accounting, and management. I've also been working in the private sector exclusively. What's your qualifications?

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Glen Pierce

11:32 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

11-9-12 Kevin. Why do you stress your personal education in order to argue a point? I'm sure you studied hard. Like me. I have some sheep skins on my wall too. You want to know my qualifications? On which topic? Baseball? Yogi Berra told me 3 times that I know more baseball than anyone that he ever met. Maybe you meant a specific Bush item? Kevin, I am talking "macro". Not micro to every single Presidential decision. too much time here is taken by us all writing about nitpicking things. Here it is in a nutshell. Bush zoomed us to $5 trillion debt and Obama to $17. The House and Senate must have aided them, right? So now what's the plan to reduce debt and interest payments?

We can argue about the other stuff some other time. Abortion? I go with the dems even though i am a moderate repub. But who cares what i think. What else do you need to know about me in order to satisfy your political answers? My credentials? Your's? Who cares about such details. Smarten up Kevin.

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Kevin

3:08 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Glen - i just wanted to give you the info before you tell me to invest in a college course about economic theory taught by a non liberal professor. I know macro and micro economics quite well.

The debt isn't at $16 T yet, so Obama isn't at $17T. The debt ceiling will need to be raised early next year when we hit the $16.39T limit.

As for Obama's approx $5T of debt - $1.6T of it was because Bush conveniently excluded the cost of war from his deficits, and Obama brought it on budget. Another $1.4T was interest payments on the debt that Obama inherited. So, that's $3T of Obama's $5T created.

Oh, and Bush zoomed us to $10T in debt, not $5T.

Add someone amount in there for the costs of Medicare Part D, unpaid for, and for the Bush tax cuts that weren't paid for (cut it off at 2010 if you'd like, since Obama agreed to extend them), and that brings the amount of debt incurred in his 1st term even lower, directly due to his policies.

What would I do to reduce debt and interest payments? I'd cut defense spending by at least 1/3. I'd raise the early retirement and full retirement age for Social Security and Medicare, and not exclude the generation that ran up this debt while paying artificially low tax rates, and i'd raise taxes back to a responsible level while eliminating many deductions.

Problem solved.

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esther

10:25 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Lisa,
Perhaps your time would be better spent investigating some of the information posted on Fran's editorial. More people are collecting welfare and applying for food stamps under Obama than any other president. And why is that? Let's see- high unemployment- underemployment- He has apologized for every possible thing he could have, insulted our allies and perhaps even more heinous that anything else left unprotected Americans in an American Embassy where he knew they were in danger because he and his administration were begged for protection. Now that should scare you- the President's job is to PROTECT HIS CITIZENS. He didn't and now starts the big coverup. Lisa, guess you have been playing on your computer too much. And stop watching so much CNN.

Fran Hopkins

2:51 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

Lisa, these are facts. Which do you consider lies and why? Thanks.

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Lisa

10:39 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Fran,

Guess I didn't need to respond as many others have below me!!!

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Kevin

11:02 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

it's painful to read these tired old arguments yet again. "facts". ummmm...yeah, sure.

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esther

10:25 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Great editorial Fran-well researched and presented just as efficiently. Congrats!!!

bbbnto

5:19 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

I agree with just about everything you wrote, but I decided to make it 'fair and balanced':

• It was painful when, in 2008, our government bailed out Wall Street
• It was painful when we hear the pundits say that gas has gone up during the Obama administration, without pointing out the fact the gasoline was well over $4.00 a gallon in the Summer of 2008.
• It is painful to hear the thwarting of our natural resources, when in 1973, there was a gas crisis due to an oil embargo from overseas sources. They had 40 years to fix the problem…with both Democratic and Republican presidents. Now it’s suddenly Obama’s problem ( I was reminded of this during the recent gas lines)

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Kevin

11:02 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

Good points. And did anyone see what happened to gas prices nationally when you removed significant demand for the product in the NY Metro area and other areas impacted by the storm?

You want gas prices to go down, figure out ways to decrease demand for the product. Supplies will continue to lag worldwide demand. That's just a fact. Canada is compeltely energy independent, and they pay around $4.50/gallon right now for gas.

Portmanteau

9:16 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

I got news for you Fran. If you go to sleep on a Tuesday and wake up on Wednesday you are the same person no matter who wins the POTUS.

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Max Braden

9:02 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

I'll tell you what's painful, Fran. What's painful is reading an article that is so confident about its truthfulness without citing a single source. I'd be more inclined to believe you if you actually had something, anything, to demonstrate you've done any actual research into this, but, clearly, you haven't, because every one of your points is a skewed, misunderstood, and ultimately self-serving example of a complex moment in politics that, while perhaps not admirable, deserves a much lengthier discussion than "Obama's a terrorist!" A look into what is turning out to be the least effective Congress in US history might change your political leanings a bit, not that I expect you, of course, to actually do anything that might suggest you're wrong about anything.

Of course, the best part of all of this is that I don't have to care any more about what fools like you think about Obama, because the country thinks differently. Welcome to America. A land in which we vote for the candidates who speak from the heart, not those who speak from the wallet. A land in which we let policy determine our future, not propaganda. A land in which we don't let the middle-school writing of the fear-changing influence our decisions. God bless America!

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Lauri Barger Baker

12:40 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

VERY, VERY well said! I couldn't agree more.

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Ann S.

5:12 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

Max: THANK YOU for your comment!

Fran: What a bunch of unresearched garbage. I am always willing to read truthful writing, even if I don't personally agree with the points. This was just embarrassing to read - unless you secretly work for The Onion and readers have missed it in all of your other articles about being unemployed.

Regarding #7 of your list: From what I remember reading, you are the person with the "comfortable nest egg" to live off of, the person who "doesn't want to take (read: settle for) a part time job", and also the person "holding out for your dream job". I must ask rhetorically: Why would you include this in your list when you seem to have chosen to remain unemployed at your own free will? The "people it was painful to watch remain unemployed" sure as hell doesn't include you.

Your radical turn from writing about being unemployed to writing about politics was perhaps "a well-intentioned mistake."

** For laughs: "earmark-bribes to eke out"... Absolutely priceless to read!

Everyone else: Kudos to holding writers accountable.

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Kevin

11:02 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

in all fairness, though I agree Obama spoke from the heart - his wallet for his campaign wasn't too thin either. Campaign Finance Reform!!! Call for it! Then maybe we can get a wider range of views, and stop the 2 parties from colluding to eliminate any other parties from participating in the debates.

Caldwellres

9:02 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

Fran, I will never cease to be shocked at your complete lack of understanding of what has occurred in the last four years. It seems like you got the Fox News talking points down though.

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Larry Dell

9:02 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

8 years of George Bush wrecked damaged on America from which it will take a long time to recover.
Bush/Cheney lied to the American people and started the war in Iraq for their own benefit. They made war so that Bush could campaign as a war time president. Is there anything more disgusting and self serving as that?

And we all know their economic record promoting an out of control financial sector that brought the country to the brink of destruction. As well as economic policies that have led to the largest wealth gap between rich and poor that the country has ever seen. And you want more of that.

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Glen Pierce

2:00 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

Say Larry. How many years do you want the Dems to be in power before they can say they fixed the "Bush years"? 15 years okay with you? Or maybe you should have solved them in the last 4 years. Geez, I guess if you get a full blown Katrina, $60 Billion Madeoff scandal, Country Wide bank scandal which 2 Fannie Mae Dems Franka and Dodd didn't notice and also Dem Fed Greenspan tells us that he see's no evidence of a housing bubble which could affect the economy for years .....hmmm.. Larry did you miss these past news items which hit us hard in 2008 to now? Oh yeah. I forgot about 9-11-2001 and the war expenses.

People like you prefer to blame Bush than to take a serious look. The Dems and Liberals find convenient ways to ignore the truth and prefer to invent the truth.

History will show it after you are gone Larry.

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Kevin

11:32 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

Glen - sure...let's solve the Bush years:

Let the tax cuts that weren't paid for expire.
Pay for Medicare Part D by increasing taxes.
Pay for the $1.6T spend on Iraq and Afghanistan.

Hmmm....don't think that would go over too well with those with an R in front of their name and Grover Norvquist to answer to, now would it?

Sally Chew

9:02 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

What bbbnto said. And even though I am still without power from Sandy this morning, it is a very happy morning indeed for me.

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JOE

9:08 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

Wow, if all that stuff caused you pain, you're sure gonna need a lot of Tylenol to get through the next 4 years!

Way to go team Obama!

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Denise

10:14 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

It's painful that you didn't do your research & are just spreading Fox News propaganda. It's also painful that you published this article prematurely and that it showed up in my inbox. What's not painful is that thankfully most New Jerseyans and majority of the US don't feel the same way as you and are not so full of hatred & determined to see a president of our great country fail. When our presidents fail, we fail. Just look at Bush. Now's a time to come together. Republicans can get w/the New American program or continue to be sore losers & cause legislative gridlock. Team Obama, way to go, yay!!!

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bbbnto

11:41 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

I just realized that the very first sentence of your article sums it up. It was part of the reason Barack Obama won. You have been waiting since November of 2008 to vote him out of office? When he didn't even get into office yet? This should be a wake-up call to Republicans! I am very disappointed with conservative talk radio and Fox News. People just got sick and tired of the constant negative rhetoric. Now, the response I will get is, "...the Democrats do the same thing...". Do two wrongs make a right? Come on, grow up Republicans!

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Kevin

11:32 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

I wasn't waiting since November, 2000 to vote Bush out of office. I did what I do after every election. I contacted my representatives about issues I care about. Now, in 2004, when taking in the information about Bush's huge spending without paying for it, and huge tax cuts when we had an opportunity to decrease our national debt substantially...I wasn't thrilled with the prospects of 4 more years or more spending that was unpaid for. Sadly, our other options weren't wonderful, so we came up short at replacing Bush. Romney blew this election big time by trying to cater to the far right of the party, and then never coming to a clear position when he finally started coming back to the center. Romney got 2 million less votes than McCain did, but still only lost by about 2.7 million in the popular vote. If Obama voters from 2008 came out and supported him the same, he would have won by nearly 10 million votes.

That tells you something, and we can all make assumptions about it. My interpretation..plenty of progressives and liberals simply stayed home or voted 3rd part because, despite socialist claims, he simply was too conservative for them to come out and support him again. He mostly maintained his independent supporters, because Romney was too unclear on his positions. But..despite losing the support of some independents and many progressives, he still won by a larger electoral margin than Bush, who claimed a mandate, and a similar popular vote margin to Bush. Romney blew it

Diane Fish

11:41 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

I guess those who spew the Republican party line are not going to be bothered by fact checkers. Diane Fish

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Sandra Smith

12:05 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

50% of the people believed the only truth that Mitt Romney ever said was behind closed doors about 47% of Americans.

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chris

4:34 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

What a sad day this is ): The only silver lining is after four more years of sheer hell from this administration you won't be able to blame Bush anymore! Not like he was to blame anyway after four years of this administration. Get ready for another recession folks, Steve Forbes predicts it. Get ready for Obamacare, 6 month wait time to see a doctor, a mountain of increased taxes you can't even imagine.

Bottom line, Romney should have picked Rubio as his VP, that is now clear. Only way for a republican to win is to pander. It doesn't matter anymore who has the clear vision for the economy, the candidate who parties with Beyonce and who will provide the most FREE STUFF wins. For a twist on an infamous quote from our first lady -- for the first time I am ASHAMED of my country.

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Glen Pierce

5:12 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

I agree with you Chris. Obama will get some favorable stats for 4 months due to the Sandy storm. People will need to replace things as you all know. Regarding all the Fed Reserve borrowings the last 4 years. I seem to recall something like this prior to WW2. Am i correct? The work programs. The 1933-39 dems knew that the can would be kicked down the line for some future President. Then 1941 Pearl Harbor and all that 1942 production and jobs to convert from butter to guns. After the war, slight recession if i recall. Some inflation. And then 1950 more war, more "guns" to make in the economy.

Hardly any real factories around in NJ anymore. Just mini shopping malls.
We sell services more than goods. Everyone goes to college or tries to. Solid non college jobs disappeared. And we got older.l

The Fed Reserve. We borrow trillions and the increased money flow drops the interest rates for the moment. The govt spend the money on something. I wish I knew the top 20 "things" and not the generalities. Investors want 6 to 8 % rates. Not 2%. So they move their money somewhere else.

Obama has clearly stated that he wants wealth realignment in a capitalistic society. He wants the European socialistic liberalism model. which does not work. We will discover this in a year.

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esther

10:25 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Obama-
does not have an original thought unless it comes from a teleprompter
does not have a clue how to decrease unemployment
has no idea how to be fiscally responsible-just wait until small businesses are hit with the requirement to provide health insurance- hello layoffs-hello recession
has no idea what the cornerstone of the United States is
thinks socialism will work-
wow! are we in for it.

Dom DeLouise

5:12 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

I cannot wait until those $100,000 Obamacare taxes on small businesses kick in. Just watch and learn how job creation is killed. It'll be great to see us turn into Western Europe, only with worse food, while Eastern Europe and Asia become the United States, also with better food.

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Glen Pierce

7:57 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

I agree with Dom. Hear, Hear! I just finished writing my tax account if i should end my NJ business ID. Seriously. I pay $500 to keep the NJ license live and now an Obama care fine probably coming up. And business is slow. So why bother to keep a business open?? (Ah Dom, hate to break the news that you died a couple of years ago but yes, your food was good.)

grateful

9:30 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

No more Republican rule. Far right is too divisive. Even our children see that, no matter what race they belong to.

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grateful

9:30 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

God bless America. We promote diversity. Angry Republicans. Too much Levine, Hannity and Limbaugh. They dethrone the Republican party. I like Mr. Romney but he went to the angry party.

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Glen Pierce

11:53 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012

hahahaha. Can't bait the Repubs. The proof of the pudding is our bad economy run recklessly the last 4 years with 4 more to go. Then you can let the historians document it. $5 trillion debt becomes $17 Trillion during Obama's watch using the Fed credit card with Harry Reid. Mmmm. You say that you liked Romney. The election was not supposed to be a high school popularity election. It should have been about the economic leadership. Unfortunately, the liberals got lost in the small thjings. In the next 3 months oI predict positive econ news due to the Sandy storm repairs. After that, we will sink again. At some point, you will become angry.

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Glen Pierce

8:55 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012

To Grateful. I bet there are a handful of Dems whom you would also discount as not representing your feelings sometimes. Maybe VP Biden or Pelosi or Harry Reid. But I don't automatically lump you with them. Political talk seems to get hung up about personalities and not issues. It should be issues that makes us think how to solve a problem. Anger? I see figures which don't lie that often. Trillions of them. That is what we were supposed to be voting about. We could argue all day about 1 guy dreaming up silly mocks. The trick is to figure out if any useful nuggets came out of their mouths. Both parties have some difficult personalities which i think often is their way to conceal the truth.

Glen Pierce

12:28 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012

By the way, I don't let levine, hannity and limbaugh speak for me. I feel that you are correct that they go too far sometimes. Not so much Levine. He makes sense most of the time. But don't judge all repubs on these fellows. We each have brains too, regardless of what you think.

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Ron Mullen

8:55 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Maybe the democrats will come in now and save Montclair from Bankruptcy.

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YEM

10:54 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Republicans live in their own reality, which has nothing to do with actual reality. Rachel said it wonderfully last night
"Ohio really did go to President Obama last night, he really did win. He really was born in Hawaii, and he really is, legitimately, president of the United States again. And The Bureau of Labor Statistics did not make up a fake unemployment rate last month. And the Congressional Research Service really can find no evidence that cutting taxes on rich people grows the economy. And the polls were not skewed to oversample Democrats. And Nate Silver was not making up fake projections about the election to make conservatives feel bad. Nate Silver was doing math.
And climate change is real. And rape really does cause pregnancy sometimes. And evolution is a thing! And Benghazi was an attack on us, it was not a scandal by us. And nobody is taking away anyone's guns. And taxes have not gone up. And the deficit is dropping, actually. And Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction. And the moon landing was real. And FEMA is not building concentration camps. And UN election observers are not taking over Texas. And moderate reforms of the regulations on the insurance industry and the financial services industry in this country are not the same thing as communism."

but please, keep on spreading lies and living in your fantasy world, it obviously only helps the rest of us.

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Barry Soetoro

2:44 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

And Obamacare really does, in addition to a dozen other new taxes, impose a $2,000 per employee "tax" on small business with more than 49 employees if they don't purchase an expensive group policy for their employees. And 50 times $2,000 really does equal $100,000.

chris

2:44 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Got more for you YEM -- And Obama REALLY did try to work with the Republicans in the house but they just kept refusing to compromise,, AH HEM, oh wait what about his two MAJOR pieces of legislation that he CRAMMED through without one republican vote!!! THE stimulus crap and Obamacare nightmare!!

Get a clue - keep listening to Rachel Madcow & Chris 'oh I'm glad this storm happened' Matthews -- Obama may have been born in the US but he also had horrible grades, did drugs and it remains a mystery what's in his college transcripts. Perhaps he was an exchange student?? But we'll never know b/c the lamestream media will cover and ignore for him no matter what!

As I said before, the one good thing about him being re-elected, I want to see how you airheads keep explaining away our anemic growth, insane unemployment numbers, and dwindling business community. WAKE THE FREAK UP!!! This man is not magical - he's a misguided politician! What is it going to take?? Oh wait, it's Bush's fault, yeah that's it. LOL

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YEM

3:50 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Rachel Maddow is smarter than me or you and I will continue to listen to her because of the intelligence of her ideas. She, like Nate Silver, is demonized by those on the right because they know they couldn't win a fact based debate with her on any issue. Face it. the stimulus worked. we were on the verge of total financial collapse thanks to Bush.

Romney lost not just because of these economic issues, I'm sure you realize. Women are disgusted with the GOP's war on women. People don't want republicans draconian cuts to medicare or social security. Minorities, who make up a larger and larger piece of the demographic pie, hate your ideological message.

Like David Frum says, there aren't enough angry white guys like you to support the GOP's platform.

you lost, get over your sour grapes and become part of the solution. The GOP will change by moving to the middle, or become a relic party.

and as a progressive, I'm elated.

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chris

5:15 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Rachel Madcow is an idiot! She has no facts. She looks like an amateur every time she appears on Meet the Press - WHY NBC puts her up there is beyond me. She is sooo in over her head! She twists, distorts, misrepresents the truth all the time, aside from being an incredibly obnoxious person to watch.
But that's the way it is with you libs. You want facts, here's facts:
- The stimulus should have been called porkulus. It caused the economy to SHED jobs not gain them in any kind of lasting manner or fiscally responsible manner. the government could simply have cut a $100,000 check to everyone whose employment was allegedly made possible by the stimuls and taxpayers would have come out $427 billion ahead.
-- FACT by borrowing more than the regular defense budget or the annual cost of Medicare, and then spending it mostly on Democratic constituencies rather than in a manner genuinely designed to stimulate the economy, the stimulus actually undermined our recovery — while leaving us at least 6 billion deeper in debt.
- This President has spent more money NOW then if you begin at George Washington and go THRU George W. Bush
- FACT under Reagan the economy grew at a 6% GDP rate -- we are at an anemic 2% and that's an improvement from the previous 1.3%!!!! We aren't creating enough jobs to keep up with the regular flow of people entering the work force!
- FACt the only war on women is the 14% unemployment rate among women under Obama. And by the way, I AM A WOMAN!

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Glen Pierce

10:05 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

To Chris - you are an educated smart woman who looks at issues and not empty political words. I just started reading a good 2007 book written by Peter Schiff who is the ONLY fellow who predicted, with facts, the recession. And more. it is called "The Real Crash, How to save yourself andy your country". He was right on. ALL other TV analysts and Fed Greenspan on all the stations were saying the opposite. They saw no Bubble. Schiff did. He is kind of like the fellow who caught onto and reported to the SEC the Madoff fellow.

So. Some Dem liberals voted with things that had nothing to do with the economy. If the economy goes further South, then those things they voted for will be in jeopardy.

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Glen Pierce

10:05 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

Part 2. I needed more space.
I knew someone close to me had little money. He maxed out 9 credit cards when the banks had few rules. The stress killed him. Then his kids had to bailout the mother as best they could. Easy bankruptcy rules eased the burden.

I see the US economic management team doing the same thing the last 4 years. They buy things by maxing out their "Fed Reserve credit card". Then stress out how to repay. Then look for the rich people to bail them out and pay off all the credit cards. Classic move.

The Dem liberal voters skip over this. Try to throw barbs in the face of these facts. They secretly hope that money shows up from an unplanned source. Like a Christmas surprise. After the rich people pay the bills, who do we go after next to pay the huge interest payments?

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Glen Pierce

10:05 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

Part 3 - please read in proper order.
In the next 3 or 4 months, we will have slight economic growth in the east coast due to replacement goods for the Sandy Hurricane people. After that, the temporary jobs people making $8 per hour for cleanup, will be done. Then reality will set in. Even the Dems will question the Obama leadership. We can only hope that Obama would follow the Senate and House Repubs ideas. But he won't. His wealth distribution plan is contrary to what is needed. He wrote his plans in his books. The Dems let a good man Romney slip away just when you needed a low keyed financial executive. Instead, you voted for a Chicago neighborhood activist to run the US economy. You saddled down the other half of the country. You will suffer too for 4 more years. Watch.

Also, get that Peter Schiff book. PS - Nice informative Chris messages.

Sherley Jean-Baptiste

5:15 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Well Dear,
You lost. Now, you can either find a rock to crawl under, follow Romney into retirement, or use your energy for something positive. Either way, your nonsense is now outdated. 4 more years it is.

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Glen Pierce

10:05 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

Sherley - Your comment seems empty with no reasoning power given for us. So why bother writing here to tell us your thoughts which have no smart ideas? I only read your zest of writing barbs. Tell us more.

chris

6:32 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Oh you are sooo funny!!! Are you appearing anywhere Sherl, comedy club perhaps?? Let's see how much you're laughing in four years. Let's see how much you're laughing when you can't see a doctor because obamacare has decimated our healthcare system. Let's see how much you laugh when you take a look at your tax bills and look around with nothing more to show for your hard earned money.

I believe republicans will definitely have the last laugh.

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Portmanteau

10:05 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

Wow. Go back to sleep. Seriously.

YEM

6:32 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

I find it funny when you write "FACT" and then state an opinion. regardless, your ideas are in the minority and have been voted down. The tea party and the religious loons have taken over your party, so good luck with that.

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Portmanteau

10:05 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

Blame the government!!! Blame a teacher!!!! Blame someone! Anyone! Just not me.

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dherron

10:05 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

President Obama won because Romney lost. Romney lost because the Republican Party has failed. The Republican Party failed to reach out to Hispanics. The republican party failed to reach out to African Americans. Romney embraced policies that were harmful to women. After alienating Blacks, Hispanics and women, just how in the world did anyone really think Romney could win. America is changing. Amazing how everyone blames Obama for everything that is wrong with our economy. Where was the outrage 8 years ago when Bush ran the economy into the ground. We spent billions on a war searching for WMD, which did not exist. The Republican Party claims that all life is of value even in cases of rape. Pregnancy as the result of rape is "God's will," as one Republican candidate called it. Clearly the lunatics are lose. Gone are the days when the Republican Party can rule and exclude Blacks, women and Hispanics. That is why Romney lost. Because we vote, too.

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Dazed not Confused

12:44 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

dherron, well put.
Fran, what are you going to do now? Spend the next 4 years blaming everything negative on the Dems...or make the best of what you cannot change, and stand behind our elected leaders? It's time to become the UNITED States of America once again.

Taxes are Fun

4:31 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

In addition to the "tax" on small business cited above, and in addition to the estimated $4000 tax increase per middle class family due to the cessation of the Bush tax cuts AND due to the 2% increase in payroll taxes set for 1/1/13, here's some MORE taxes courtesy of Obamacare:

•A 3.8% surtax on "investment income" when your adjusted gross income is more than $200,000 ($250,000 for joint-filers). What is "investment income?" Dividends, interest, rent, capital gains, annuities, house sales, partnerships, etc. Taxes on dividends will rise from 15% to 18.8%--if Congress extends the Bush tax cuts. If Congress does not extend the Bush tax cuts, taxes on dividends will rise from 15% to a shocking 43.8%.
•A 0.9% surtax on Medicare taxes for those making $200,000 or more ($250,000 joint). You already pay Medicare tax of 1.45%, and your employer pays another 1.45% for you (unless you're self-employed, in which case you pay the whole 2.9% yourself). Next year, your Medicare bill will be 2.35%.

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Taxes are Fun

4:31 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Part Deux:

•Flexible Spending Account contributions will be capped at $2,500. Currently, there is no tax-related limit on how much you can set aside pre-tax to pay for medical expenses. Next year, there will be. If you have been socking away, say, $10,000 in your FSA to pay medical bills, you'll have to cut that to $2,500. (ATR.org)
•The itemized-deduction hurdle for medical expenses is going up to $10,000. Right now, any medical expenses over $7,500 per year are deductible. Next year, that hurdle will be $10,000. (ATR.org)
•The penalty on non-medical withdrawals from Healthcare Savings Accounts is now 20% instead of 10%. That's twice the penalty that applies to annuities, IRAs, and other tax-free vehicles. (ATR.org)
•A tax of 10% on indoor tanning services (the 'White Girl Tax"). This has been in place for two years, since the summer of 2010. (ATR.org)

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Taxes are Fun

4:31 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012

Part Troi:

•A 40% tax on "Cadillac Health Care Plans" starting in 2018.Those whose employers pay for all or most of comprehensive healthcare plans (costing $10,200 for an individual or $27,500 for families) will have to pay a 40% tax on the amount their employer pays. The 2018 start date is said to have been a gift to unions, which often have comprehensive plans. (ATR.org)
•A"Medicine Cabinet Tax" that eliminates the ability to pay for over-the-counter medicines from a pre-tax Flexible Spending Account. This started in January 2011. (ATR.org)
•A "penalty" tax for those who don't buy health insurance. This will phase in from 2014-2016. It will range from $695 per person to about $4,700 per person, depending on your income. (More details here.)
•A tax on medical devices costing more than $100. Starting in 2013, medical device manufacturers will have to pay a 2.3% excise tax on medical equipment. This is expected to raise the cost of medical procedures. (Breitbart.com)

Enjoy clueless liberals!

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chris

8:41 am on Sunday, November 11, 2012

Another thing that is pretty scary, (this is what Romney wanted to do as well to be fair) - if they cap deductions rather than raise taxes I think a town like Montclair will suffer in terms of our home values even more.
Reverting to pre-Bush tax rates on incomes above $250K – as the President and many Democrats are advocating – would raise about $1 trillion over the next ten years. In order to achieve approximately the same amount of deficit reduction, the limitation on deductions would have to be set at 15%. In other words, taxpayers in marginal tax brackets above 15% would lose some of the benefit of their itemized deductions. Obviously, such a change would have the greatest impact on taxpayers in high brackets with a lot of deductions. In particular, the limitation on deductions would hit taxpayers in high tax states – such as NY, NJ and California – particularly hard.
Let's say you have 100k in deductions, they may cap it at 45, which would end up costing you $18,000 a year. You lose the tax shield, not the full amount,100k-45k= 55k X 35% tax rate equals $18k
I am sorry but I don't see why they don't MEANS test areas of the country. A combined income of $250 in this area is a heck of a lot different than $250K in Alabama!!!! If you people don't see how this will hurt the economy, you are really kidding yourselves. Discretionary spending is going to go WAY DOWN and so is the economy.

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Glen Pierce

1:40 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

Chris. Why are we suddenly knocking on the "rich people" door? They did not do the wasteful Govt spending or make complicated tax codes. Or borrow from the Fed Reserve for things i mentioned above. (Get the Peter Schiff book for better details than me.) Who do we go AFTER Robin Obama Hood hits the rich people?

Franklin Street

1:09 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

I don't have much hope for this country. We have too many people that want free stuff. Should I have to pay for a 30 year old women's(Sandra Fluke) birth control? Should I have to pay for free school lunch for a kid that can afford a cell phone or a $100 pair of sneakers? We have too many parasites and we reward irresponsbile behavior. However, this craziness can not last because, we will run out of money very soon and govt. dependence never works. If govt. dependence works we would not have three generations of familes living in public housing and collecting welfare, would we? We would not be having welfare mothers spit out kids with multiple fathers like feral cats, would we? We would not have hard working people getting their money taken to re-distribute to the lazy,would we? Yes, the "Great Society" has been a dismal failure.

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Glen Pierce

9:01 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

To Franklin Street: Well said. I read today 11-14-12 that Romney feels that the "free gifts" by Obama tipped the scales. I agee with Romney. I already cited 2 Dem friends who wanted the free Obama gifts instead of a steller businessman to run the country.

James Johnston

1:09 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

It was painful to read Fran Hopkins diatribe. Apparently it was painful for patch to post my original comment, so I will abbreviate it to "Get a Life."

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chris

8:13 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

Glen, I'm not really sure what your point is here. I think we;re on the same side -- I think you need to cut rates across the board, and broaden the base - I am a supply sider, but obviously I am in the minority.

I think to say couples making $250K combined income are RICH is definitely way off base, at least in the NY Metro area. There is no doubt raising taxes or taking away deductions is going to hurt upper middle class and small businesses - who, in this economy are just holding onto their jobs, not getting raises, not getting bonuses, still saving for their kids college funds, still paying insane property taxes. Something's gotta give. And just wait till the increased taxes with obamacare kick in -- what's coming is scary.

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Glen Pierce

7:15 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Chris - Sorry. i got mixed up. Yes, you have common sense ideas. thanks alot. glen

Sally Clark Sheola

8:13 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

It is painful to read such a litany of lies and half-truths. This probably comes from too much exposure to right-wing media. Good thing the majority of the American public did not fall for the lies. And funny how the Repubs and Tea Partiers never acknowledge the tremendous damage done by Pres. GW Bush's two (stolen) terms.

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Fran Hopkins

11:46 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

I'm glad there was so much response to my post, but why is it that, if you express a viewpoint about President Obama's record that differs from the liberal-progressive-mainstream media narrative, the response is to vilify you? I don't think anyone refuted my statements, just trashed me for making them or fell back on "blame Bush." Fortunately, we still have a Constitutional right to free speech in this country and I think we can all agree about that.

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Kevin

11:54 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

Because most of these have been refuted multiple times already. We're sick of refuting them.

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tryintosurvive

7:15 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Because this is the Montclair Patch. Accepting of everyone's opinion as long as it agrees with the liberal-progressive-mainstream media narrative. That is pretty obvious, isn't it?

Kevin

12:11 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

How have government regulators thwarted development of natural resources? We will be the leading oil producer in the world by 2020, natural gas exploration is booming, and we are still blowing the tops off mountains for coal.

What's the issue?

Also...there is no European redistribution of wealth that didn't already exist. Taxes have been cut for almost every single american. Personal responsibility developed by the heritage foundation was enacted as the individual mandate.

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Glen Pierce

7:15 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

Number of Rich Taxpayers: I wonder how many individuals involved? I am guessing 780,000 of the taxpayers. (I don't mean the whole 312 Million US population. Just the ones classified as a taxpayer. Secondly, i wonder the dollar ranges of these rich people? Some may make $250,000 and some over $5 Million.

Obama talks like rich people grow on trees. I would like to know how many there are and the composition. Then I know if all this rhetoric would truly fix Obama's debt and spending mess.

Don't forget that the debt benchmark is a moving target. If it is now $17 trillion, then add the existing debt service and the new spending increment MINUS whatever the "rich taxpayers" money is applied. So where would the first year end up?
I often hear Obama say things like, "Here is where we would be in 10 years" if we do such and such? Ahh, doesn't Obama know that he will be gone in 4 years? Also, people assume that the increased tax revenue will all be properly applied in the immediate year. I doubt it.
Have you seen any of his words on paper or a chart? Has he even balanced the budget ever?
and I am supposed to fall for the notion that the 2012 and 2013 tax payers will end the fiscal cliff? Are you falling for his talk? 50% of the people are.

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Glen Pierce

7:15 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

I would love to read a Fran column about the high cost of college. We are being ripped off by the colleges and their unions. The parents are forced to look for outside dollar help. why is that? Why don't the colleges have reasonable cost to begin with?
In 1969, I paid $2,000 per Year for college. This included tuition, books, campus housing and 1 meal per day.
My 1976 MBA and 1980 MBA were EACH around $4,000 from start to end. So $8,000 total.
What is it now? I hear parents say $40,000 per year for 1 year of undergrad.
Anyone know?
All of these tricks to get a few bucks free funding for a kid is a smoke and mirrors deal. The cost should not be so high to begin with. It is a sin. This issue ripples into our lives. Yet, little talk about it everyday in the news or political people. all I hear are more college free-beeees by politicians if they get elected. What has our country turned into, whoring for college dollars??

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chris

2:27 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012

I agree they should cut spending but that is unlikely to happen. I know they are going to raise revenue either by limiting tax deductions or raising taxes -- BUT my big point here is how the heck do they come up with a COMBINED FAMILY INCOME OF $250 as the richest of the rich?? That means a woman making $125K and a man making $125K -- We aren't living in the 40s! That is NOT rich. If you have several kids, if you live in the NE particularly, you are getting by, but in no way shape or form are you rich. Home improvements, trips, upgrading your car, buying the kids some new clothing or just making due with hand me downs -- these are all things that have an affect on the economy if families choose to sit on the sidelines. How you libs just don't see that is mind blowing! It will have a detrimental effect no doubt -- at least let's stop calling combined family income of $250 RICH. They are going to hit the middle and upper middle class, period.

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