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Superintendent of Schools Under Review

School officials tight-lipped on results of evaluation

 

West Orange school board officials met in a closed session Thursday night for a yearly evaluation of Superintendent of Schools Anthony Cavanna.

Though they would not comment publicly on the outcome of the meeting, community residents feared the board might move to terminate Cavanna. 

Board of education members deferred comment to board president Laura Lab who would not comment on personnel issues. She said, though, that the meeting was posted. 

In an email sent around Thursday and obtained by Patch, West Orange resident Cynthia Cumming warned of the possible termination of the superintendent. She wrote,

"It has come to my attention that certain members of the school board, constituting a majority, have called a closed session meeting tonight in an effort to dismiss Dr. Cavanna.

In my opinion, this would be a disastrous move for the children of this district and the township as a whole, and am outraged that this would occur in planned closed meetings without the input or voice of the voting public." 

While school board attorney Steven Christiano would not comment specifically on the outcome of the meeting, he outlined the formal removal process. 

"You can't just dismiss somebody," he said. "There has to be cause to do that."

Christiano said board members would have to agree to certify tenure charges against a superintendent. Once the charges were certified and approved in a majority vote by the board, the superintendent would appear in a hearing before an administrative law judge. The decision would then be reviewed by the commissioner of education, he said. 

He said, as part of the process, the superintendent would be suspended for 120 days without pay once tenure charges are filed and an interim superintendent would be appointed by the board until the issue is resolved.

Christiano said causes for dismissal can include "unbecoming conduct, incapacity, incompetence and inefficiency." 

Cavanna was unanimously appointed by the board in 2009. He is under a four year contract set to expire June 30 of 2013. His salary is set around $220,000. 

Before his tenure as West Orange superintendent, Cavanna was a teacher, assistant principal, principal and deputy superintendent of schools in New York City. He has also held posts as a superintendent in New York and New Jersey. 

Cavanna could not be reached for comment.  

Gladys

5:34 pm on Friday, July 22, 2011

Wow. The only board member I would say is guilty of "unbecoming conduct" would be Christiano.

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Gary Englert

6:11 pm on Friday, July 22, 2011

@ Gladys: I'm not sure what prompted your comment but, Mr. Christiano is not a member of the Board of Education; he is the Board's attorney.

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Gladys

7:54 pm on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

I know who he is. And if you're not sure what prompted my comment, I guess you haven't been to many BOE meetings.

Ann Aly Ahmed

9:19 pm on Friday, July 22, 2011

I agree with Cynthia this would disastrous for our children/students in the district.

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Jake Freivald

10:20 pm on Friday, July 22, 2011

I find it interesting that many people who supported the election of current board members, and who generally support board decisions, don't trust the BOE to properly review the superintendent.

The board is privvy to a lot of information that the general public doesn't have. Isn't it *just possible* that there are serious issues with Dr. Cavanna's performance? And if there are, and they're serious enough that he should be terminated for cause, wouldn't it be a *good thing* for West Orange to let him go?

Somehow, I don't think the board would terminate without cause. They wouldn't want to pick a legal fight that they couldn't win. So, if they're talking termination -- something that's not clear from the article, by the way -- they must have reasons.

If, before this week, you felt like their judgment had been compromised, then feel free to say so. Otherwise, those of you who elected the board should give them a chance to work through the process. If they have sufficient reason to terminate him, they should. If they don't, they shouldn't. And they know that. Let the process work before getting worked up over it.

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Sherley Jean-Baptiste

7:42 am on Saturday, July 23, 2011

This article raise some other questions: If the info was not public, how did Cynthia Cumming obtain it? Who made her aware of it before the rest of the public? And what other confidential info has she been made aware of in the past?

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kathy tague

9:10 am on Saturday, July 23, 2011

I likely sit in the most unique situation in this town. I'm the only person in WO who sat on the board with Dr Cavanna and Jerry Tarnoff other than the current sitting board. What I will say on this matter is that there may be other legitimate perspectives to consider, way before this week, but as a former board member I bound myself to the code of ethics I swore to and will maintain confidentiality about my experience. Having said that, I'm pleased with the progress our district has made in the past two years not only for the programs that have been implemented and grant funding received, but for the accountability that has been instilled in the staff. I attribute this positive change to Dr Cavanna's leadership, which is direction the board who hired him provided.

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john prignano

4:28 pm on Monday, July 25, 2011

Pleased with the accountability that has been installed in the staff ?? Not the GREATER accountability that has been installed in the staff ? What does that say about 15 year Superintendent Tarnoff and the other administrators , many of whom are still there ? And what does it say about the rest of the staff ? This explains , in large part , the steady decline of the schools ; Results don't matter Is there any mention of test scores anywhere on this site ?.If and until Dr. Cavanna eliminates tenure , cronyism and nepotism , there is no reason to have confidence in the first statement .

Jake Freivald

9:20 am on Saturday, July 23, 2011

Sherley, Cynthia posted on the West Orange Watercooler email list that she obtained the information from Dr. Cavanna directly.

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CC Minton

9:36 am on Saturday, July 23, 2011

Ditto to Kathy. I am pleased with the progress the district has made as well. Due to the confidentiality clause for BOE members complete transparency to the public is a very hard to obtain.

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Deb Harvest

1:46 pm on Saturday, July 23, 2011

I agree with Kathy, I am also pleased with the progress our district has made in the past two years and for the accountability that has been instilled in the staff.

However, I am concerned with the illegal meeting that was held on Thursday. I attended the BOE meeting on Tuesday (7/19). The president read into the minutes that the next meeting would not take place until August. By law, the president must inform the public of any closed session meetings within 48 hours. Although they do not have to tell you the specifics of the meeting, they must establish a purpose (personnel, finance, school budget, etc.). This did not happen. Therefore, what took place on Thursday was illegal and a violation.

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Silvia

4:12 pm on Saturday, July 23, 2011

Let's face it we need someone to look into what is happening at the board of education, There are way too many chiefs and no indians and the cheifs salaries are very high, Do we need a superitendent making over $200000 and an assistant superintendent making $200000? Just thinking, how are the children benefiting? Start looking into how our tax money is being spent

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john prignano

5:17 pm on Saturday, July 23, 2011

The praise comes in for Cavanna; Grant funding received , new programs implemented , ," a sense of accountability instilled in the staff" " " heading the district in the right direction ' "great leadership " ' losing him would be a catastrophe " . Yet NO mention of the newly implemented programs quantifiable results , and no mention of standardized test scores , college board scores , Great Schools ratings , more and more curriculum mandates being delivered in fewer and fewer hours , and administrator salaries and the overall cost per pupil .There is a conscious effort being made to dismiss or ignore objective evaluations of education , and to embrace subjective evaluations, which are arguments that can't be lost. The winners will be the educrats and their supporters . The losers will be the children and the members of the public who still believe that keeping score matters .

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sternie

9:28 pm on Saturday, July 23, 2011

I will tell you what I see. I see a lot of really terrific kids from a variety of backgrounds some of whom are ivy league bound, some of whom are working their butts off in AP classes while folks like you denigrate their district simply because you have an inferiority complex. If you are so unhappy in West Orange you can leave. Let the people who really love this town fight to make it better. Let us measure education as a lengthy journey that every child takes on their own terms. It's not a factory or a snob mill. Let's look at the schools as a place where kids mature and their skills are refined. Let's stop comparing ourselves to neighboring towns and trying to be something that we are not. I love West Orange. The people here are down to earth. They are hard working and fun loving and cool! There are lots of really interesting and creative people in this town. If you share this vision then roll up your sleeves and make a contribution.

WestOrangeVoice

6:31 pm on Saturday, July 23, 2011

Just An Observer, You mentioned that board president Laura Lab is a Republican; Laura Lab has been known to cross party lines to shore up her political endeavours. How many people KNEW that Laura Lab supported Dr. Elnardo Webster when he ran for town council. Laura Lab and Paul Petigrow switched there support from Dr. Elnardo Webster when his past became an issue for her political agenda. How many people knew that once the local machines candidate had been severely tarnished, Laura Lab and Paul Petigrow weighed there options, met with the Joe Krakoviak and Ron Charles, then used the West Orange Council of PTA's to switch direction and support Joe Krakoviak. Let's not forget to mention the Freivalds were key individual on Joe Krakoviak's council campaign; Hence, the connection between Laura Lab and the Freivalds. For the record, Ms. Lab has been in play with numerous Democrats even though she is a registered Republican.

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Sue Freivald

6:50 pm on Saturday, July 23, 2011

Figuring out that a BOE member has unilateral sway over the Council of PTAs, let alone could use the CPTA to swing a town council election, is really, really insightful. That there's a Lab-to-CPTA-to-Krakoviak-to Freivald connection is brilliant. Don't know how you ever figured it out, but yes, this is the big plot--to use random association to connect us all to Kevin Bacon. :)

Of course, one would think that someone able to figure that out could see that the comment they're replying to is gone, as is their original conspiracy theory post.

Letty Case

7:33 pm on Saturday, July 23, 2011

Is Dr. Cavanna one of those people who, when told to jump, refuses to ask "how high"?...Seems like losing him would be detrimental to the children of this town.

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puppwo

7:53 pm on Saturday, July 23, 2011

You have nothing to go on to say he's any good! Like prignano above, I'd like to see some actual evidence that he's so great. Not people supposing he doesn't like to jump and then saying gee, that means it would be a shame to lose the guy.

And no, btw, he seems like a guy who likes to SAY "jump" and wants everyone who works for him or oversees him to say "how high?"

sternie

8:41 pm on Saturday, July 23, 2011

I must say that I have dealt with this gentleman on a number of occasions and found him to be professional, intelligent, and insightful. He seems to have a real vision in terms of his ability to sift through the B.S., which I think is essential for running any organization. I came to education after 12 years in the corporate world and watched many different managers and he ranks as one who I believe has integrity. That ingredient in itself makes him stand out in my mind. Just one man's opinion

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Deb Harvest

9:54 pm on Saturday, July 23, 2011

Please note, pursuant to law and regulations, public notice of special meetings must be made within 48 hours of a meeting. Regular meetings are scheduled in advance, special meetings (closed and public MUST follow the law). The public must be informed when 3 or more Board members are together for professional reasons. This ensures transparency when dealing with taxpayer money. If the laws were not in effect, our Board of Ed could make decisions that would impact the entire District and keep it from the public.

Please refer to the NJ OPEN PUBLIC MEETINGS ACT
The Open Public Meetings Law, which is commonly referred to as the “Sunshine
Law”, was enacted in 1975. It establishes the right of all citizens to have adequate
advance notice of all public meetings and the right to attend meetings at which any
business affecting the public is discussed or acted upon. – N.J.S.A. 10:4-6 to 10:4-2
A “48-Hour Notice” is required when a public body wishes to convene a
meeting which has not been listed on the annual notice or regularly
scheduled meetings. The Law mandates the public body to provide a
written notice at least 48 hours prior to the convening of the meeting.
The “48-Hour Notice” must contain the time, date, location and, to the
extent known, the agenda of the meeting. (Once the meeting is opened publicly, the Board can go into closed session)

This procedure was not followed with the meeting that took place on Thursday.

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puppwo

11:41 pm on Saturday, July 23, 2011

Agendas at each meeting, say about notice:

NOTICE OF MEETING:
Please take notice that adequate notice of this meeting has been provided in the following manner:
A. That a written notice was sent from the Office of the Secretary of the Board at X:XX p.m. on XXXXX.
B. That said notice was sent by regular mail to the West Orange Township Clerk and by e-mail to the Editors of the West Orange Chronicle and the Star-Ledger.
C. That said notice was posted in the lobby of the Administration Building of the Board of Education.

So maybe you should have checked the lobby on Tuesday.

Jake Freivald

11:34 pm on Saturday, July 23, 2011

We townspeople need to take a step back.

Dr. Cavanna's supporters consistently say how good he is and how much progress we've made in the past two years. They forget that the BOE has information about Cavanna that the public isn't allowed to know.

That's worth repeating: The Board of Education knows more than we do about Dr. Cavanna's performance.

Maybe there's no "unbecoming conduct, incapacity, incompetence and[/or] inefficiency." If so, the BOE won't try to fire him, because he'd file an unlawful termination suit, and the BOE would lose.

Some of Cavanna's supporters engage in wishful thinking, arguing that this is about "personalities" or "vendettas". But it's hard to fire educators, even when it's justified: The BOE couldn't win an unlawful termination suit based on "personalities".

The BOE knows that.

Dr. Cavanna knows that.

And we, the public, know that, if we stop reacting emotionally and settle down long enough to think.

So, if we presume that the Board is trying to fire Dr. Cavanna, we should also presume that they believe -- with legal advice -- that they have cause. We should remember that we don't know all of the facts. We should set our personal feelings aside.

Finally, remember that only Board members were at the meeting; even Dr. Cavanna wasn't there. Unless there was an ethical breach, nobody knows whether they talked about firing him. If they did, then they believe they have cause; if they didn't, then we're hyped up over nothing.

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Raymond Helfrich

11:29 am on Sunday, July 24, 2011

"Superintendent of Schools Under Review"
and
"School officials tight-lipped on results of evaluation."

Doesn't the BOE review the super every year?
and
Don't they never discuss the review?

The Patch says:
"... community residents [sic] feared the board might move to terminate Cavanna."

But only one resident was mentioned:
"In an email sent around Thursday and obtained by Patch, West Orange resident Cynthia Cumming warned of the possible termination of the superintendent."

So where does that leave us?

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Deb Harvest

11:35 am on Sunday, July 24, 2011

If school board members present at a meeting represent a quorum (3 members or more) and they discuss the business of the board, the meeting has to be advertised and open to the public. Even if they decided to have a secret meeting in one of their homes, the rule still applies. Once the meeting is called, they may elect to go into closed session to discuss the agenda items but must report to the public after the session. This includes a review of the superintendent’s evaluation. Please take the time to visit the following websites to learn more about this act. I also encourage you to contact Dr. Lawrence S. Feinsod, Executive County Superintendent phone: (973) 621-2750, The NJ School Boards Association or the NJ Dept. of Education to verify my statement.

http://www.shamong.net/vertical/Sites/%7B23FE350B-4C74-4538-8594-9B75E8AB3E35%7D/uploads/%7B6E1F1F17-C2D8-4169-BD05-13C0DAA7ED0A%7D.PDF

http://ldb.njstatelib.org/Library_Law/lwopnmtg

The regular BOE meeting took place 48 hours before the special meeting. The BOE had a legal obligation to announce the special meeting to the public. I checked the board lobby for the written notice (as I always do after every meeting) and it was not there.

Perhaps, the County Superintendent needs to investigate.

It would be nice to see more people at the BOE meeting to represent the voice of all children. There have been many meetings that my husband and I are the only community members present.

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Portmanteau

11:36 am on Sunday, July 24, 2011

It leaves us with a tabloid style story that taints this poor guy's reputation. Shame.

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just an observer

12:59 pm on Sunday, July 24, 2011

Deb, i looked into it, AND it was posted, public WAS notified. Mrs. Cummings has spread a non truth and outraged the town.

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just an observer

1:01 pm on Sunday, July 24, 2011

Port, Mrs. Cummings has been quoted on the WO Watercooler as saying she had received the information from Dr Cavanna. They did it to themselves.

puppwo

12:27 pm on Sunday, July 24, 2011

There wouldn't be a tabloid story if the guy didn't create it. If he hadn't said anything, this review would have gone on unnoticed, just like every other year. He tried to taint the reps of the BOE members and now probably tainted his own rep as well. Lose-lose for district. Thanks, Dr. C.

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just an observer

1:04 pm on Sunday, July 24, 2011

puppywo understands what happened.

Raymond Helfrich

12:39 pm on Sunday, July 24, 2011

What I'm left with is "I think he's bad." "I feel that he's good."
"We've made progress." "The children are suffering."
These are as useful as "X has 'the best' pizza."

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Ann Aly Ahmed

3:33 pm on Sunday, July 24, 2011

I for one am glad that it is out in the public. I am tired of all this behind close doors tactics. We the taxpayer need to know what is going on. If the man is truly bad for our schools, let us the people decide. Not just the BOE. We have the right to know it all, bad or good. Stop all the secrets and let us decide.

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Raymond Helfrich

3:43 pm on Sunday, July 24, 2011

WHAT is "out in the public"?

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Sue Freivald

4:00 pm on Sunday, July 24, 2011

Ann, it would be nice if this COULD be public sometimes, but the fact is the BOE legally CANNOT make this public. They can't publicly discuss any employee's eval--except in certain cases where the employee has the option to make discussion of their performance public. Personally, I wouldn't opt for that unless I knew EXACTLY what was likely to be in my eval--few employees would. In this case Dr. Cavanna had the option to make the meeting public and chose not to, just as most employees do. Therefore, the BOE is forbidden from discussing his eval with the public, and he knows it. We, the public, literally do NOT have the right to know it all, good or bad, and the BOE does NOT have the right to tell us--for the protection of the employee, this is confidential info only the employee himself can make public. Besides, we do not get to get rid of a super or anyone else through a referendum. As with all our elected officials, when we elect them we give them the authority and responsibility to make these decisions. We can't make a decision for the BOE any more than we can make a decision for the mayor, or the president. We can only motivate them by way of reminding them they need votes to win re-election--but no matter how much they want our votes, they still can't, legally, divulge personnel information.

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Sue Freivald

4:00 pm on Sunday, July 24, 2011

These are not exactly behind closed doors tactics--this was an annual review, which is required by law to be closed to the public unless the employee decides to make it public. Just as discussion of a student is not open to the public to maintain confidentiality, neither is discussion of an employee. This same type of meeting takes place every single year for every super. It's not a tactic, it's a normally-held annual thing. A lot of info has gotten garbled.

Deb Harvest

4:18 pm on Sunday, July 24, 2011

Just an observer, someone is not giving you the complete information. I was at the Board meeting on Tuesday. I know that the BOE President did not disclose to the public that there would be a special meeting on Thursday. If the meeting was posted, as you say, then the Board president was legally obligated to read the special meeting into the official record. Every BOE meeting is recorded. All one has to do is play the tape to know that this information was not provided to the public. The BOE has every right to act within the law in the best interest of students. My concern with the BOE is that some of them feel that they are above the law. Regardless of how you feel, you cannot act on emotions. There is a legal way to get things done. When one tries to circumvent the law, you have chaos, pandemonium, finger pointing, and back stepping to cover up. Ms. Cummings did not do anything wrong. Again, if a legal meeting was scheduled, there should have been full disclosure at the BOE meeting. If things were done correctly, the township would have known that a review of an evaluation (which by law should have been completed by now) was taking place.

Emotions are diverting the real problem, failure to follow rituals, routines, and legal procedures.

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Raymond Helfrich

4:29 pm on Sunday, July 24, 2011

"There is a legal way to get things done."

"Emotions are diverting the real problem, failure to follow rituals, routines, and legal procedures."

So what are you (or the resident quoted in the Patch article) doing to DO, "to follow... legal procedures"??

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Jake Freivald

5:11 pm on Sunday, July 24, 2011

There's a semantic issue here: What does "announce" mean? Just An Observer and Debra Harvest have different opinions. Semantics can be important, and I suggest that if someone thinks this is a serious issue, they call Steve Christiano and get the Board's official position.

But using this issue to claim that the BOE thinks it's above the law seems over the top. What's their motivation? What difference would it have made? The BOE would have been in closed session, just as they were, and we would know no more than we do now.

I agree that proper policy should be followed; however, if we want to avoid "chaos, pandemonium, finger pointing, and back stepping" then using this issue to attack the Board seems unproductive.

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just an observer

5:43 pm on Sunday, July 24, 2011

Mrs. Cummings with all of her good intentions was used a pawn by Dr Cavanna. I feel bad for her, she is a nice lady. As for announcing the review meeting at the BOE meeting, by policy they do no have to announce it, they only have to follow procedure by posting it.

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WestOrangeVoice

9:38 am on Monday, July 25, 2011

Just an Observer, Jake, and Et al...Ms. Harvest is CORRECT!, Read the Open Public Meetings Act (OPMA). It is very obvious that most responders have formed an opinion and support a pre-determined view.

Jake, it is a fact that you and your wife have personal vendetta against Dr. Cavanna. When your attempt to have Dr. Cavanna dismissed with your misuse of A.R.R.A. funds accusations FAILED!. You vowed to have him fired whatever the means. That is a fact. You, Laura, and a few others plotted this for months.
Furthermore, let's be HONEST!, Dr. Cavanna was Riced about a month ago to discuss his contract. The meeting this past Thursday was an EMERGENCY meeting called by West Orange Board Of Education President Ms. Laura Lab.

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just an observer

1:18 pm on Monday, July 25, 2011

Voice and Deb, if you take the time to check you will find this meeting was posted in the same manner all other meetings have been. There is NO requirement that any future meetings be announced at any BOE meeting.

Ryan

4:22 pm on Sunday, July 24, 2011

Raymond is right. Has anyone who was at the meeting gone on the record about what happened there? Not that I have seen. Patch only got the Board lawyer to comment and he only spoke in hypotheticals. Everything else is just rumor. Now, some of that rumor may turn out to be well- founded but at this point almost nothing is "out in the open".

And Ann, while there may be room for a little more public input, we elect the Board to make this kind of decision. Superintendent is not an elected office. I for one am glad it's not subject to popularity contests. No one would want the job if it was.

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Raymond Helfrich

5:19 pm on Sunday, July 24, 2011

[We can't reply to a reply to a comment.]

@Jake This reminds me: I wasn't fond of the use of the word 'issue' in this article.

"Christiano... said, as part of the process, the superintendent would be suspended for 120 days without pay once tenure charges are filed and an interim superintendent would be appointed by the board until *the issue* is resolved."

Christiano was speaking hypothetically, but wasn't quoted as saying "if there were/ever is an issue..."

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Raymond Helfrich

5:22 pm on Sunday, July 24, 2011

So the only 'issue' is that several people think that the BOE held a meeting illegally? There is no information about the BOE having an 'issue' with Dr. C.'s performance?

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just an observer

5:45 pm on Sunday, July 24, 2011

According to Mrs. Cummings, Dr Cavanna claimed there was an issue by the board with him.

Sherley Jean-Baptiste

5:44 pm on Sunday, July 24, 2011

Was last year's review announced and held in a public session? How is this year's different? Back to my original questions(see post above). Just trying to get some answers from the selected few that have access.

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Sue Freivald

10:58 am on Monday, July 25, 2011

These are great questions...Last year's review, as well as reviews of the previous super, etc, would have been held in the same way, posted and held in closed session unless the super requested to have it public. This process can be explained by anyone familiar with the such procedures, no special access necessary, but then, few would think to ask--before last week, it simply took place without anyone paying attention--because even WITH everyone paying attention now, there's nothing the public is allowed to know about the eval anyway. This year's review is ONLY different in the sense that people have been misled about the nature of the meeting and are upset--the process is the same every year.

There are two meetings in this process--first, the BOE meets and each member presents their own eval, with and NJSBA rep present. The super is RICEd before this meeting. Then the BOE president has the task of creating a single eval document from the five individual documents, and when that is done, the BOE meets again to review it or discuss. Again, for that meeting, the super is RICEd--so he knows about the meeting, and has the option to make it public. In this case, the first meeting took place in June (when only a few rumors went around that the BOE was trying to fire him) and the second took place last Thursday (when all the ruckus broke out.) Last June and July the same types of meetings took place for last year's eval for Dr. Cavanna.

Jake Freivald

12:25 am on Monday, July 25, 2011

WestOrangeVoice said:

"It is very obvious that most responders have formed an opinion and support a pre-determined view."

...including WestOrangeVoice.

"You, Laura, and a few others plotted this for months."

YES! Except for me, I mean. Laura and a few others planned to hold Dr. Cavanna's review for months. Happens every year. Required by statute, I believe.

"you were placed on the Library Committee by Councilman Joe Krakoviak and you had the Librarian fired."

Call the Town Clerk: I'm not on the Library Committee, and I never fired anyone.

"Jake, it is a fact that you and your wife have personal vendetta against Dr. Cavanna. When your attempt to have Dr. Cavanna dismissed with your misuse of A.R.R.A. funds accusations FAILED!. You vowed to have him fired whatever the means."

People always get this backwards. I don't accuse Dr. Cavanna of bad things because I want him fired; I think he should be fired because he has done bad things.

Not everyone will believe me; their experiences of the man are different from mine. They haven't seen his conniving and bullying side. But remember that that's what crafty people do: They convince others that they're trustworthy, and then abuse that trust. It's unfortunate that this situation will leave us divided. That's not something I would have chosen.

At any rate, though I have not shied away from speaking my mind about Dr. Cavanna, I regret to say that I have nothing to do with any current actions by the board.

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Portmanteau

9:50 am on Monday, July 25, 2011

I dunno Jake, but as a corporate guy you understand that sometimes in an entrenched bureaucracy you have to bust some heads to get action. Look at it this way. The status quo wasn't working for this school district. It simply stagnated and some change was needed. We got that change. What's next?

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Jake Freivald

10:43 am on Monday, July 25, 2011

Portmanteau, my problems with him have nothing to do with him "busting heads," by which I presume you mean putting pressure on teachers and administrators. My knowledge of his interactions with them are limited.

More to the point, my concerns about Dr. Cavanna are presently *irrelevant*. If -- IF -- the board is moving against him, they and their legal counsel think they have cause. Their reasons, and the reasons that their counsel believes are supportable, are probably different from mine. (I know based a heated discussion that Christiano and I differ on at least some points.) That's why I'm not cheerleading the effort (if there is one) to oust him: My concerns are irrelevant.

The point shouldn't be, "Jake, you shouldn't be so anti-Cavanna." The point should be, "Everyone, pro- or anti-Cavanna, should settle down and let the BOE do its job."

Portmanteau

10:51 am on Monday, July 25, 2011

OK Jake, I cannot argue with that logic and it is clear that you have your head on straight regarding your approach. What I fear is two-fold. One is that there is a limited pool of talent out there and now with the salary caps some of these folks are heading to NY State and beyond. The other piece is that with his short tenure the BOE might get the reputation for being 'difficult' and that means that we will have an even harder time recruiting a quality outside candidate. If in fact that is no concern and we dance with someone we all know (and love...hahaha) then so be it. But the issues really should be more transparent. Based on the taxes we all pay to live here and the mixed reputation that the town has, we need to see a positive trajectory for the schools. Most of us are already in the hole on home we bought here over the past decade. We are essentially competing for residents that can choose to live in any of the towns in the area. We don't have a train so we need to push quality of life. Part of that falls on the schools and that is simply not a selling point right now at least to outsiders. Long time locals and current residents are another matter. My two cents.

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just an observer

11:05 am on Monday, July 25, 2011

average tenure in Nj for a superintendent is 2.2 years,

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Jake Freivald

11:35 am on Monday, July 25, 2011

And our previous superintendent, Jerry Tarnoff, was in place for 15 years.

just an observer

1:24 pm on Monday, July 25, 2011

it has come to peoples attention that an email signed by Cynthia cumming from the email address of WestOrangeVoice@gmail.com could be the same person (WestOrangeVoice) slandering Laura Lab on this website. hmmmmm

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john prignano

3:19 pm on Monday, July 25, 2011

WestOrangeVoice was correct when they wrote that Laura Lab is NOT there for ALL special needs children . I speak from personal experience. There are two terms ; An Essex County Republican , and a R. I. N. O. - Republican In Name Only . I choose the latter , DEFINITELY

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Cynthia Cumming

3:31 pm on Monday, July 25, 2011

Cynthia Cumming is NOT West Orange Voice. And I never said the meeting was illegal. Someone got a copy of my email, copied and pasted, and sent it under their own email name. Someone also forwarded my email to the Patch, as I did not.

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just an observer

3:52 pm on Monday, July 25, 2011

Cynthia, we need to let the BOE do their jib and stop the madness. Nieghbor is fighting neighbor, this is not good for WO

Ryan

4:03 pm on Monday, July 25, 2011

Cynthia is on record strongly supporting Lab's election so it seems pretty unlikely she is the one allegedly slandering her.

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Sherley Jean-Baptiste

8:05 pm on Monday, July 25, 2011

Just an Observer, the saddest part is that the fighting is taking place over a superintendent that does not live in town, or even in NJ, At the end of the day, he collects his salary of $220,000, and drives off the NY. Let's see what he does when his contract has to be renegotiated under the the cap.

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just an observer

9:31 pm on Monday, July 25, 2011

Sherley, he'll never make it to contract negotiations. His past history speaks for its self.

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WestOrangeVoice

8:53 am on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

@Sherley, the real issue is not about the Superintendent. The concern is for the students within our district. You and I know this is personal and political power move. In regard to your comment about our superintendent not living within the district....Did you know that almost 60% of our teacher DO NOT live in West Orange and this is the main reason why when our district needed them to take a salary freeze to save 83 of there colleagues, NO ONE! was willing because they didn't live in district which meant the lost of 83 teachers did not affect their children who attended school in ANOTHER school district.

@just an observer, why is his past history such an issue with you when it appears it was not an issue with the BOE when they vetted and hired the Superintendent. Also, nothing is so unusual about his history in a school district, you stated in an earlier posting that the avg Superintendent stay was 2.2 years.

In my opinion, the district has thrived under his leadership and although I do not agree with all of his decisions I do see a positive change in district. So, I ask just an observer, Sherley , and ET al what has this man done to warrant this treatment from our BOE?

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Ryan

9:43 am on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

Sherley, WOV:

Frankly I don't know or care much about this Super but this obsession with where people live and spend their money is dumb. Who cares where the Super or teachers live? We let huge corporations operating in the US incorporate in other countries to avoid taxes, but you think there's something wrong with ordinary public employees having free choice of where to live and spend their salaries? What's next -- forcing them to buy their groceries in town? Maybe every school should have its own commissary and BOE employees should be forced to shop there, just to keep all the money in-house.

These are not elected officials -- they are professional hires and the town will suffer if we exclude qualified candidates from consideration based on their zip codes.

WOV writes: "Did you know that almost 60% of our teacher DO NOT live in West Orange and this is the main reason why when our district needed them to take a salary freeze to save 83 of there colleagues, NO ONE! was willing because they didn't live in district which meant the lost of 83 teachers did not affect their children..."

Are you saying the teachers who live in town voted FOR the salary freeze? Let's see some evidence. And as Sue Freivald never tires of telling us, where you live is no guarantee of where your kids go to school. If you even have kids. Maybe they opposed a salary freeze because they... didn't want their salaries frozen. The business of residency for BOE employees is a silly red herring.

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Raymond Helfrich

12:12 pm on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

"... what has this man done to warrant this treatment from our BOE?"

WHAT treatment?
Somebody said that somebody said that the BOE held an illegal meeting.
It's now a second business day.
What are the facts?

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just an observer

2:21 pm on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

Cavanna's past history is extremely important, his legacy is not finishing a contract and causing infighting amongst the town, The latter is true here already and it is just a matter of time he takes a buyout.

Portmanteau

9:49 am on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

Ryan, Bravo....You sir have a keen mind. Thanks for the post.

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Portmanteau

9:59 am on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

Now for the real issue. Delivering a quality education to a diverse audience. It can be done. Is it being done well? Who knows. For fifteen years we had a superintendent whose wife was in charge of testing. The absurdity of that is beyond my comprehension. We appointed a man who may or may not be loved by the very same entrenched interests who have sheparded this district squarely into mediocrity. Finally, someone comes along who is willing to step up and lead and he is hit with what appears to be a petty and typical power struggle that is not in anyone's best interest besides maybe the few people who were either told "no" and vowed revenge like spoiled children or they decided to simply exercise ego over good sense and continue what appears to be the status quo. So they will try to send this man packing and we'll get back to business as usual. The schools will continue to leak talented students, charter schools will suck out more and more kids who want to speak an eastern language, and teachers will simply perform their duties and wait to retire. Too bad for West Orange.

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Jake Freivald

10:49 am on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

I agree with Ryan about where people live: It's a non-issue. I also agree with Portmanteau about the likelihood of entrenched interests.

However, Portmanteau can't reasonably make the assessment that this is a "petty and typical power struggle" because Cavanna "is willing to step up and lead".

1. Minimally, he has doesn't know enough to make that claim. We don't know what the board knows about Cavanna's performance.

2. Also, his story makes assumptions that may not be true. He assumes that board members who want Cavanna out because they want power. What if one of them isn't planning to run for reelection? Wouldn't that indicate that power isn't the main issue, at least for that person?

3. He's anonymous, so I don't know how well he knows the parties involved. Does he know all five board members well? The superintendent? Does he know which of them are "petty", are happy with the status quo, or want power for its own sake?

We all agree that the objective is "delivering a quality education to a diverse audience". We elected people to craft that vision (the board), and they hired an executive to implement it (the superintendent). In theory, they should be aligned; instead, they are in conflict. It seems likely to me that there are valid issues on both sides of this conflict, and a claim of "petty power struggles" is neither a complete nor an interesting nor a helpful description of what those issues are.

So, once again: Let the Board do its job.

Portmanteau

10:53 am on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

Jake, you impress me with your logic sir. I must yield to this clear thinking and articulate response. well said.

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Mikey

5:30 pm on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

@Jake Freivald, Please elaborate on this statement: "I think he should be fired because he has done bad things." Does he torture puppies or something?

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Jake Freivald

6:02 pm on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

Sorry, Mikey, not here. It would only add fuel to a fire that shouldn't even be burning. I only said that to show that WestOrangeVoice's comment about my "vendetta" was as wrong as it was inflammatory.

My point was, and remains, that we should let the BOE do its job.

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Jake Freivald

10:30 pm on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

I'm practicing what I preach. If that's lame, I'm content to be lame.

just an observer

10:33 pm on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

Lets keep the name calling on the WO Forums at NJ.com, I was hoping there could have intelligent banter here.

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Portmanteau

10:39 pm on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

What exactly are you referring to? If I may be so bold to ask?

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just an observer

10:45 pm on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

referring to Mikey, Jake makes salient points and uses restraint when it comes to some topics

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Mikey

11:01 pm on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

Not name calling... imho the reply was lame.

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Sue Freivald

11:29 pm on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

@Mikey-- in my own humble opinion, one man's "lame" is another's "principled restraint." I might be tempted to rise to your bait myself, except I'm taking the super’s own advice: he’s “warned” me about how easily people could get hit with lawsuits for asking questions, so imagine what he’d say about making actual statements! ;)

Seriously, this is really not about what good or bad people think about his performance--this is about Cavanna himself putting a town in an uproar because HE was so sure his performance was poor that he thought he was likely to be fired, or so he seems to have claimed.

Portmanteau

10:35 pm on Tuesday, July 26, 2011

One solution would be to centralize all of these BOEs into regional centers and eliminate most of them. Getting rid of the bureaucracy and fiefdoms and putting the money into the classrooms. This state is far too expense to live in -- taxes are ridiculously high and most people are stuck with it. No relief in sight. Christie is a fraud along with most elected officials.

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just an observer

12:06 am on Wednesday, July 27, 2011

then why Mrs. Cummings are you quoted on the WO Watercooler saying you received the information from Dr Cavanna. You are a nice lady, but you were used by Cavanna as a weapon against the BOE.

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Portmanteau

12:57 am on Wednesday, July 27, 2011

Holy Cow....I have to unsubscribe from this trainwreck of a thread. This type of thing makes the town look terrible. As if we don't already have an image problem. ****

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Ryan

11:12 am on Wednesday, July 27, 2011

He'll do anything to save his job, just an observer? You said at 2:21 on 7/26 above that he'd be quick to take a buyout. Which is it? At least try to keep your wild speculation consistent.

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just an observer

11:34 am on Wednesday, July 27, 2011

ryan, he wants to keep the 230K job because the new super jobs are at 175K. He will take the buyout because he does not want his review public, AS he has done in the past.

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11:36 am on Wednesday, July 27, 2011

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just an observer

11:37 am on Wednesday, July 27, 2011

and when he does take the buyout, Ryan will you be a man and retract your comments?

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Ryan

5:18 pm on Wednesday, July 27, 2011

Jao, I have not made predictions one way or the other, so what's to retract? You seem to be in a retracting mood, however -- you have (or someone else has) deleted your comment where you said he "would do anything to save his job" (can't quote directly because, well, it's gone). This after earlier saying "it is just a matter of time he [sic] takes a buyout". I merely pointed out that he cannot possibly be motivated by both desires -- desperate to keep his job and eager to jump at the chance to take a buyout (which you say is his past pattern).

I realize no one likes to have their contradictions pointed out, but there's no need to be rude. I suggest you save your comments about "being a man" for people who don't have the courage to sign their names to their comments. Like yourself!

WestOrangeVoice

11:49 am on Wednesday, July 27, 2011

Just an observer, I did a little research. On July 25th you said " Sherley, he'll never make it to contract negotiations. His past history speaks for its self." In fact he was at Rahway 4 years, Old Beth Page 4 years, Ft. Lee 2 years, and a School Reform Scientist, American Institutes For Research 8 years.
Read the 2009 Press release http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2009/06/west_orange_hires_new_schools.html

Again, the board has made this a personal vendetta and political power move and I truly hope for certain members of the board this matter does not BECOME ethic charges because there are plenty to go around against Lauara Lab and Paul Petigrow.

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just an observer

12:34 pm on Wednesday, July 27, 2011

WO Voice, he took the buyout instead of contract negotiations in all three locations. As for the AIR, that's private sector. He never was renewed as super anywhere, he takes the money and runs.
I would love to hear the ethic violations you claim to have. How do you know its a personal vendetta and a power move? What is the personal vendetta? What power do Paul and Laura want?
Either you are a board member or have some privileged information and that is an ethics violation. You are the only one who claims to know all of the information, why don't you enlighten us?

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WestOrangeVoice

2:14 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Just an observer, I am not a board member nor do I imply I have privileged information. For the record, if ethic complaints are filed I will seek out the petitioner and share my information

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CC Minton

8:18 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

@Portmanteau . . . . I agree. All of the negativity and back and forth comment makes the town look bad. The township is about to embark on some type of PR campaign. Not sure how they could possibly put a positive spin on all that has been said and done.

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just an observer

8:18 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

But you avoided answering my questions of your repeated posts claiming Paul and Laura have a personal vendetta against Dr Cavanna AND they are on a political power move. Once again what is the personal vendetta you claim and what political power do they covet?

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sternie

11:19 am on Thursday, July 28, 2011

Let's all just calm down and take a deep breath. There. It's gorgeous outside. Our town is in bloom. It's a wonderful place for those of us who call it home. We welcome others to it if they would like. Peace.

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Ken

10:14 am on Sunday, July 31, 2011

Can someone (on either side, preferably on both) give some details about what Cavanna has or has not done? I've got a kid starting 4th grade and another starting kindergarten, and the only difference I've noticed between administrations is the name on the letters. Makes me wonder if they couldn't just fire this guy, leave the position vacant, and let the schools run themselves.

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MP

10:15 am on Monday, August 1, 2011

Sternie - If i can sell my house without a loss, I will leave tomorrow. The High School is going down. If not for the AP courses, it will be way down in rating. Edison Six never improved. The principal of that school should me dismisseed before Cavanna. It was a mistake to create Edison 6. They only dragged down the high performing kids. Teacher absenteeism is on the rise. Substitutes are costing money and performance. Oh yes, the taxes are high to support poor performance.

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Raymond Helfrich

10:47 am on Wednesday, September 7, 2011

So? What happened? What's happening?

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